and how much??
Originally $22K...got it all for $400
Wasn't going to pass that up.
After research I found it funny that there was only one solution to make it fully compatible with a DAW through an external Probox that a guy has been making and selling forever. Well it's just two RS232 paths via DB25 and the CPU parallel port. I do this all the time for work so just sniffed the messages (well most surface at the moment). Just working the conversion details.
Yeah when it comes to the missing MIDI implementation and proprietary CPU OS it is definitely dated.
Such an awesome console though and I want to integrate it badly. Now if I can get it fully integrated, honestly I think the d8b would be worth just for a control surface (and all the extra external audio capabilities are just bonus).
The problem is HUI and not MCU, and that the messages are only CPU/Console and never come out via MIDI. If it was supported and around a little longer they could have implemented that...and no they did not release the source code...hell i think they lost half their assets for it.
If there were better DAW options for it, it would definitely be worth the $550+ cost for a full-fledged control surface.
As is, and some of the newer ones...yeah I would have to agree. Quite expensive.
-Shane
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I have a full Mackie d8b Console...which only has HUI implementation on 8 faders.
I tapped into the main CPU/Console cable which has 2x RS232 and now converting them via Usine to MCU MIDI, and other options.
-s
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Does this patch still exist?
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Statistics: Posted by sephult — 28 Nov 2017, 20:44
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usine to midi
BTW, have you assign any midi controller to the faders..? ( right click and choose find in remote panel to check ) not a mackie specialist but not sure faders are standard
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Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 11 May 2012, 09:39
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couple of months ago i managed to work with this patch on the same computer and it worked like a charm , but now i'm using a tablet as control out , with rtp midi . its weird how some of the the controls doesn't even send data ! at first i thought my patch is kinda messed up but i downloaded it again .same problem . next previous and play pause button etc works , but the faders don't !
any help would be appreciated
Statistics: Posted by yooha22 — 11 May 2012, 09:16
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It was from this pages instruction that I ran the Midi setup. The only thing I wasn't sure about was your use of "Maple mid in". I have just used the default MidiYoke in & out ports but otherwise followed exactly these instructions.
Send is engaged but as far as I can see nothing is being sent other than the touch data. ....If I use the mouse then there is no trace info updated. As I said Usine receives correct data but doesn't seem to be passing it to the MackieControl Emulator
I'm beginning to wonder if the Mackie Emulator patch is the problem....maybe I'll attempt setting up my own single fader to confirm if I can get control.
EDIT: Creating a single fader I managed to get 2 way control of a Cubase fader though it seems a little more complex than the instruction which had one single line in the remote setup called fader.
I have lines for fader, fader min, fader max & CC. I just used midi learn on all of them & set min & max to 0 & 127 & now the fader controls Cubase & vice-versa.
If I look at the remote settings for the Mackie Emulator none of the channels or controllers are set. Could this be the problem...do I need to learn every control? I assumed these would be pre-programmed as part of the Mackie protocol.
EDIT 2 So by editing the remote settings I have managed to get some parts of the emulator working but others i can't figure out. For example the Pans I can't seem to get working at all & the track names feedback I can't get at as the free version doesn't allow patch edit.
Certainly shows a lot of promise....tempted to buy it & see if I can make it work as I want it but also worried I would never get it working well enough to be any use!!
Statistics: Posted by Grim — 21 Dec 2011, 15:33
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on this wiki page the old remote switch is now the send switches and must be active ( I've to update those pages..)
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Am brand new to Usine & attempting to initially get Mackie Control patch working with Cubase using my Iiyama single touch monitor & Usine free version.
Have read through what seem to be the relevant parts of manual but I'm obviously missing something as I don't get any control in either direction.
Here is where I am at.
Installed MidiYoke. All Yokes showing up in programs.
Opened Mackie Control Patch.
In Usine setup I set midi in to "in from MidiYoke: 1" / set midi out to "out to MidiYoke: 2
Enabled trace in & out & Midi in Feedback.
Then in Cubase I added a midi controller "Mackie Control" with the midi input set as MidiYoke 2 & output as MidiYoke 1
If I move (for instance) a fader in Cubase I see midi info trace info in Usine that refers to the specific channel I moved
in Usine I only see the trace info "Gesture + short click single point" (or long click) no matter what control I move.
This is the only indication I get that there is any connection.
Can anyone suggest what else I need to do to get communication between the 2 apps.
Thanks.
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Statistics: Posted by ethnix73 — 16 Apr 2010, 13:58
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http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php ... kiecontrol
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Statistics: Posted by senso — 16 Apr 2010, 11:42
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I think I understand at least part of why this won't work in the VST version. Remote out has no effect in the VST version, right?
I suppose it doesn't matter too much in this situation as I see this patch being most powerfull when used on a lowly tablet touch computer to control Live or another host on a faster machine.
Maybe in some situations though it would be nice to be able to send midi remote from the Usine VST version..?
Ok, I have another post to put in the feature suggestions now....
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 15 Apr 2010, 20:44
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From Live to Usine, I have counter, select, mute, solo,pan and record sending fine but the first fader moves in Usine regardless of which fader I move in Live....
???
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 15 Apr 2010, 11:16
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Just to avoid any confusion, In the wiki I corrected "Host Midi In (Maple1) --> Usine Midi in (Maple1)" Host Midi In, now reads Host midi out
The pans are weird for me. They move around when I move my cursor above them and don't work when I grab them with my cursor. Am I missing something?
Also, is this set up to scroll through more than 8 tracks or is that a diy?
oh, also the track names are missing the letter "i" ? in Ableton I am gettin "1-Audo" as a track name
but very cool and just a hint at what you could do with Usine as a midi controller!
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 15 Apr 2010, 10:26
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It respects the MackieControl specification but the Master Section part is more specifically designed for Ableton Live. Fortunately it can be easily adapted to any host.
General Features
Host independent features (works in all hosts).
For 8 Tracks:
-volume (1-8)
-Mute (1-8)
-Solo (1-8)
-Select (1-8)
-Rec or arm (1-8)
-Pan (1-8)
-Retrieve automatically the track names from the host.
Master section
-Master Volume
-Master Rec
-Start
-Stop
-Forward
-Backward
Ableton Live specific(Features adapted to Ableton Live)
-Show Browser button
-Loop ON/OFF
-Punch In ON/OFF
-Punch Out ON/OFF
-Previous Line
-Next Line
-Launch Clip
-Launch Scene
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