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Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-31T11:03:39+02:00

nay-seven, I'd like to know if you had a license option for developers (I mean a pool of 2 or 3 licenses for a little team)
I'll ask it to Olivier

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 31 Jul 2011, 11:03

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-31T08:52:54+02:00

Hello,
as Senso is definitely busy with this new version i try to answer quickly

- performance (dsp but timing accurate too ; I mean, I don't need these timing issues à la SynthMaker)

we don't have made any comparison with synthmaker but we are really happy with this last version performances.

- investment protection (I mean, compiled vs fully opened patch)

no way to edit patch when you export your VST, the only actual thing the user can do is resize visible controls , and this can be a really cool feature .

- x-platfom (I could dream about VST for win & osx)

Usine will be cross platform , be sure of that.

I'd need:
- a solid framework, well supported, stable ok

- features for total customization of GUI design ok

- sdk included (in order to work with bytes a bit, if required smile check here

- a hope to have a solid solution which will have a long life cycle support , except a 2012 big crash i don't see any reason we ll not be here in 10 years

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 Jul 2011, 08:52

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T23:21:21+02:00

Know a little about the work plan for any development, push me and others users for the purchase, based on new innovations.

Statistics: Posted by Tronic — 30 Jul 2011, 23:21

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T18:56:20+02:00

Hi Jean-Marc,

I'm very comfortable with max5 (and max6 is announced with a strange gen~ object which won't be a real code generator but more a bytecode generator for severa dsp part.

Actually, since Max/Msp has abandonned the plugin exportation for Live, there is no more other "easy" solution to do that, since Synthedit and Synthmaker are Windows only.

Cycling74 discontinued pluggo, because of the Ableton's partnership.
VST for osx would be THE thing for which I could choose this framework!
I'm definitively motivated by the way the Usine's community goes.

As you wrote, there aren't a lot of graphical paradigm solutions.
Btw, there are a lot of wrappers.

I can count :

"pure" frameworks
AU SDK
VST SDK

Wrappers frameworks
IPlug C++
Juce C++
jVSTwRapper
vst .net
Delphi VST SDK
pyVST

Graphical programming frameworks
SynthEdit
SynthMaker
Usine 5.7+ (NEW ! ! !)

If Usine goes to VST for osx (I didn't write AU), it would beat the audio plugin design galaxy for the next century, for sure.

Let's wait for Olivier's answer : )

(while expecting it, I'd like to test VST export. I'll check which version offers that)

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 30 Jul 2011, 18:56

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T18:28:46+02:00

I can't answer for Oliver, but one more thing you could perhaps consider is that there is chances for Usine being later cross-platform, we could develop some kind of plugins that will be exported as Windows AND Mac VSTs (within the respective version) !

Actually, since Max/Msp has abandonned the plugin exportation for Live, there is no more other "easy" solution to do that, since Synthedit and Synthmaker are Windows only.

Even if it is not the first goal of Usine, it could make it a "killer" platform for this...

Statistics: Posted by jean-marc duchenne — 30 Jul 2011, 18:28

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T17:25:37+02:00

The title is a bit kidding..

I'm julien (aka protofuse aka designthemedia.com)
Following & creating technologies & making music too, I ever followed Usine development from one eye at least.
Actually, I'm not a license owner, but it could change!

Indeed, I read about 5.7 VST export feature.

Considering Juce C++ provide a mega wrapper, but involves huge time amount (and especially a very long ROI time)
Considering I would have 3 important points:
- performance (dsp but timing accurate too ; I mean, I don't need these timing issues à la SynthMaker)
- investment protection (I mean, compiled vs fully opened patch)
- x-platfom (I could dream about VST for win & osx)

I'd need:
- a solid framework, well supported, stable
- features for total customization of GUI design
- sdk included (in order to work with bytes a bit, if required
- a hope to have a solid solution which will have a long life cycle support
- a framework with which I could compile as VST which wouldn't require anything to be installed to use it (I read about the reader, but I'd want to avoid this solution, a priori)

And the question is, considering all I wrote before, would Usine 5.7+ be for me ?

If I'd invest, I'd dive inside of it at an insace/crazy nerd, especially because my dev team & I need to release quickly a couple of concepts/ideas as commercial plugins.
I mean: I'd like to participate as much as I can to this big big framework.

I hope this big post won't sound like an insane one.
btw, I'm insane, so

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 30 Jul 2011, 17:25

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-31T11:03:39+02:00

nay-seven, I'd like to know if you had a license option for developers (I mean a pool of 2 or 3 licenses for a little team)
I'll ask it to Olivier

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 31 Jul 2011, 11:03

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-31T08:52:54+02:00

Hello,
as Senso is definitely busy with this new version i try to answer quickly

- performance (dsp but timing accurate too ; I mean, I don't need these timing issues à la SynthMaker)

we don't have made any comparison with synthmaker but we are really happy with this last version performances.

- investment protection (I mean, compiled vs fully opened patch)

no way to edit patch when you export your VST, the only actual thing the user can do is resize visible controls , and this can be a really cool feature .

- x-platfom (I could dream about VST for win & osx)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 Jul 2011, 08:52

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T23:21:21+02:00

Know a little about the work plan for any development, push me and others users for the purchase, based on new innovations.

Statistics: Posted by Tronic — 30 Jul 2011, 23:21

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T18:56:20+02:00

Hi Jean-Marc,

I'm very comfortable with max5 (and max6 is announced with a strange gen~ object which won't be a real code generator but more a bytecode generator for severa dsp part.

Actually, since Max/Msp has abandonned the plugin exportation for Live, there is no more other "easy" solution to do that, since Synthedit and Synthmaker are Windows only.

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 30 Jul 2011, 18:56

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T18:28:46+02:00

Statistics: Posted by jean-marc duchenne — 30 Jul 2011, 18:28

Would Usine 5.7 become an official VST builder for designthemedia.com?

2011-07-30T17:25:37+02:00

Statistics: Posted by protofuse — 30 Jul 2011, 17:25