ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3476 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23537#p23537 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 20:57


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2012-05-31T17:13:38+02:00 2012-05-31T17:13:38+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23536#p23536 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
did some research on eye tracking a while ago...found this rather helpful list of currently available eye trackers and other gaze interaction related stuff..

http://www.cogain.org/wiki/Eye_Trackers

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Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 31 May 2012, 17:13


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2012-05-31T16:24:23+02:00 2012-05-31T16:24:23+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23535#p23535 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 16:24


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2012-05-31T16:19:39+02:00 2012-05-31T16:19:39+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23534#p23534 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>

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2012-05-31T16:17:57+02:00 2012-05-31T16:17:57+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23533#p23533 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> i'm focused on the v1.0 and the final user has the looked-in syndrom

head movement is the first calibration killer
the construction can be a part of the problem too (jaws movements can move the glass)

but even if you minimise/resolve these problems, the soft calibration is very complex
the appli provided (coded with openframeworks) isn't very clear (mean rapid coding) and i'm suspecting some unfinished part in the calibration process.

Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 31 May 2012, 16:17


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2012-05-31T16:04:11+02:00 2012-05-31T16:04:11+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23532#p23532 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
hello all,
you shouldn't move the head at all or you'r calibration is down
starnge, because the same problem is for v.2 too, isn't it? therefore this fun muffler :)

Can you tell more something about cause - why the calibration is lost in v.1 ? Is it really because of head movements or because of unstable construction [glasses + webcam].

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 16:04


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2012-05-31T15:03:51+02:00 2012-05-31T15:03:51+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23531#p23531 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> and nice coincidence ! is the click work the same way ( Dwell time ) ?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 May 2012, 15:03


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2012-05-31T14:06:10+02:00 2012-05-31T14:06:10+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23530#p23530 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
for infos, apart from my usine work, i'm on a project where we are building an eye tracker prototype derived from the eye writer 1.0 (mounted on glass, not the 2.0 mounted on the pc)

well, the 1.0 is really cheap to construct but you'll need some good manual aptitudes
the biggest limitation of the 1.0 version (for us, non handicapped) is that you shouldn't move the head at all or you'r calibration is down


first result are very impressive, the mouse cursor literally go where you look at... it's fun and strange :-)

for now, i'm fighting with the calibration and precision because the cursor is a bit too jerky for a comfortable use

Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 31 May 2012, 14:06


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2012-05-31T10:30:59+02:00 2012-05-31T10:30:59+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23529#p23529 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> full controll? of course no way. I just use main panel in realtime.
But you are absolutely right about independence, then we must choose most universal system like notes, at least on start.
I will tray to make something to night.

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 10:30


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2012-05-31T08:01:57+02:00 2012-05-31T08:01:57+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23528#p23528 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> camera mouse settings but I've some issues here :

_here, camera mouse don't like the gain part, it go back to mouse mode each time i choose this part..!
_and btw camera mouse don't let you do click and drag, right..? so you can change the gain..?
_works better for pan, in the way you can change position but no way for loop..?
_changing the area with the mouse wheel...no way with camera mouse..?
_ Drag & drop samples..how do you do this with camera mouse ..?

Sorry for this long issue list but i suppose all must be done easily and with no external help if you want the user feel independent ..?

last thought : not sure the sample choice is a good idea as the people with paralysis live half of their time in hospital..? maybe you need to provide a more positive trip..? ;-)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 May 2012, 08:01


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2012-05-31T04:07:33+02:00 2012-05-31T04:07:33+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23527#p23527 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Camera Mouse. This is optimizes and improved version of my patch I uploaded previously, but now it is extreme minimalism.

standalone workspace and audio files:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0f3aeab7.html

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 04:07


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2012-05-31T01:10:35+02:00 2012-05-31T01:10:35+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23526#p23526 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 01:10


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2012-05-30T22:38:22+02:00 2012-05-30T22:38:22+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23523#p23523 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> http://eyewriter.org/diy/ seems to be a webcam+ ir leds

about the workspace, yes can be a workspace , with only matrix, button, fader but with increment button and so but the most important is:specially built to be interesting and fun to play with only camera mouse

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 30 May 2012, 22:38


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2012-05-30T22:18:43+02:00 2012-05-30T22:18:43+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23522#p23522 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> No I'm not tried, but I think it depend on physical placement of inexpensive camera + EyeHarp. ..?

about camera mouse app:
Yes, I tried, and works good with inbuilt web cam too. Sometimes it change or lose tracking point, but we can improve that on settings.

abut project:
what exactly do you mean? built instruments on usine specially for "camera mouse" or "eye harp"?

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 30 May 2012, 22:18


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2012-05-30T09:48:28+02:00 2012-05-30T09:48:28+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23520#p23520 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> btw , I've discover in the article the camera mouse appz , works fine too,( once you have calibrated) except with fader/knob, you'll need to add increment/decrement button, but as we can save a workspace as .exe can be a first approach for people with paralysis, what do you think ?
maybe a new collaborative project here..?

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2012-05-29T20:48:50+02:00 2012-05-29T20:48:50+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23517#p23517 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> http://theeyeharp.blogspot.com/

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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3476 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 2012-05-31T20:57:03+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23537#p23537 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 20:57


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2012-05-31T17:13:38+02:00 2012-05-31T17:13:38+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23536#p23536 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
did some research on eye tracking a while ago...found this rather helpful list of currently available eye trackers and other gaze interaction related stuff..

http://www.cogain.org/wiki/Eye_Trackers

~

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 31 May 2012, 17:13


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2012-05-31T16:24:23+02:00 2012-05-31T16:24:23+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23535#p23535 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 16:24


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2012-05-31T16:19:39+02:00 2012-05-31T16:19:39+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23534#p23534 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 16:19


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2012-05-31T16:17:57+02:00 2012-05-31T16:17:57+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23533#p23533 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> i'm focused on the v1.0 and the final user has the looked-in syndrom

head movement is the first calibration killer
the construction can be a part of the problem too (jaws movements can move the glass)

but even if you minimise/resolve these problems, the soft calibration is very complex
the appli provided (coded with openframeworks) isn't very clear (mean rapid coding) and i'm suspecting some unfinished part in the calibration process.

Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 31 May 2012, 16:17


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2012-05-31T16:04:11+02:00 2012-05-31T16:04:11+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23532#p23532 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
hello all,
you shouldn't move the head at all or you'r calibration is down
starnge, because the same problem is for v.2 too, isn't it? therefore this fun muffler :)

Can you tell more something about cause - why the calibration is lost in v.1 ? Is it really because of head movements or because of unstable construction [glasses + webcam].

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 16:04


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2012-05-31T15:03:51+02:00 2012-05-31T15:03:51+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23531#p23531 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> and nice coincidence ! is the click work the same way ( Dwell time ) ?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 May 2012, 15:03


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2012-05-31T14:06:10+02:00 2012-05-31T14:06:10+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23530#p23530 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]>
for infos, apart from my usine work, i'm on a project where we are building an eye tracker prototype derived from the eye writer 1.0 (mounted on glass, not the 2.0 mounted on the pc)

well, the 1.0 is really cheap to construct but you'll need some good manual aptitudes
the biggest limitation of the 1.0 version (for us, non handicapped) is that you shouldn't move the head at all or you'r calibration is down


first result are very impressive, the mouse cursor literally go where you look at... it's fun and strange :-)

for now, i'm fighting with the calibration and precision because the cursor is a bit too jerky for a comfortable use

Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 31 May 2012, 14:06


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2012-05-31T10:30:59+02:00 2012-05-31T10:30:59+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23529#p23529 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> full controll? of course no way. I just use main panel in realtime.
But you are absolutely right about independence, then we must choose most universal system like notes, at least on start.
I will tray to make something to night.

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 10:30


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2012-05-31T08:01:57+02:00 2012-05-31T08:01:57+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23528#p23528 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> camera mouse settings but I've some issues here :

_here, camera mouse don't like the gain part, it go back to mouse mode each time i choose this part..!
_and btw camera mouse don't let you do click and drag, right..? so you can change the gain..?
_works better for pan, in the way you can change position but no way for loop..?
_changing the area with the mouse wheel...no way with camera mouse..?
_ Drag & drop samples..how do you do this with camera mouse ..?

Sorry for this long issue list but i suppose all must be done easily and with no external help if you want the user feel independent ..?

last thought : not sure the sample choice is a good idea as the people with paralysis live half of their time in hospital..? maybe you need to provide a more positive trip..? ;-)

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 31 May 2012, 08:01


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2012-05-31T04:07:33+02:00 2012-05-31T04:07:33+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23527#p23527 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Camera Mouse. This is optimizes and improved version of my patch I uploaded previously, but now it is extreme minimalism.

standalone workspace and audio files:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0f3aeab7.html

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 04:07


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2012-05-31T01:10:35+02:00 2012-05-31T01:10:35+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23526#p23526 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 31 May 2012, 01:10


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2012-05-30T22:38:22+02:00 2012-05-30T22:38:22+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23523#p23523 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> http://eyewriter.org/diy/ seems to be a webcam+ ir leds

about the workspace, yes can be a workspace , with only matrix, button, fader but with increment button and so but the most important is:specially built to be interesting and fun to play with only camera mouse

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 30 May 2012, 22:38


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2012-05-30T22:18:43+02:00 2012-05-30T22:18:43+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23522#p23522 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> No I'm not tried, but I think it depend on physical placement of inexpensive camera + EyeHarp. ..?

about camera mouse app:
Yes, I tried, and works good with inbuilt web cam too. Sometimes it change or lose tracking point, but we can improve that on settings.

abut project:
what exactly do you mean? built instruments on usine specially for "camera mouse" or "eye harp"?

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 30 May 2012, 22:18


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2012-05-30T09:48:28+02:00 2012-05-30T09:48:28+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23520#p23520 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> btw , I've discover in the article the camera mouse appz , works fine too,( once you have calibrated) except with fader/knob, you'll need to add increment/decrement button, but as we can save a workspace as .exe can be a first approach for people with paralysis, what do you think ?
maybe a new collaborative project here..?

Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 30 May 2012, 09:48


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2012-05-29T20:48:50+02:00 2012-05-29T20:48:50+02:00 https://www.brainmodular.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3476&p=23517#p23517 <![CDATA[The EyeHarp]]> http://theeyeharp.blogspot.com/

Statistics: Posted by r.erorr — 29 May 2012, 20:48


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