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woodslanding

here I am needing it again.... a search only turns up the crickets from my first request ;D

Workaround in progress. maybe I'll check back next year....

If this exists, it should be added to the manual.

woodslanding

I've been thinking of changing my debug methods in scripts to write to an external file, since the trace is unreadable with my eyesight, and the console is spammed by usine internal messages. Also I cannot get the filter to work, (no mention of it at all in the manual entry for the inspector) and th...

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The position gets remembered with the preset (which I'd rather it didn't) so it seems like Usine can control its position... (or maybe that's hidden in the vst chunk??) But there doesn't seem to be any place to specify or override it. I know it used to be possible to embed a vst window in a usine wi...

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I was just thinking along these lines, oli! My values are text strings, and I was thinking I could add a character at the beginning or end, that gets stripped out later. If the character is different when the data comes from the UI vs. when it is read off disk, that will trigger the hasChanged, even...

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fixed: const MIDI_TAGS = ['fs1-leslie','fs2-tapRec','fs3-sustain','fs4','mod','vol','ped2','exp']; const MIDI_CCS_IN = [28,27,26,25,1,7,11,12]; const MIDI_CCS_OUT = [28,27,64,25,1,7,11,12]; var midiIN : Tparameter; var ccMidiOUTs,ccValOUTs,ccINs : array [0..length(MIDI_TAGS) - 1] of Tparameter; // G...

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The midi seems well-formed enough to display correctly in the inspector for the script, but nothing comes out the midi output cables. The data outs work fine.... I feel like maybe an array isn't initialized somewhere? But I can't spot anything. THANKS! -e const MIDI_TAGS = ['fs1-leslie','fs2-tapRec'...

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I have my midi footcontroller set up with a magnetic usb connector, to save wear and tear and setup time over 1000s of setups and teardowns. Sometimes I kick it by mistake, and knock the usb loose for a fraction of a second. I used to be able to get it working by: disabling the pedals in settings. u...

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well, I've not tried using the SDK, but I'll keep that in mind.

woodslanding

Okay, I tried that. Took a while to circle back to this issue....

The rack has no audio inputs at all, and does no audio processing, but I still get audio dropout errors on it, if I use 'always calculated'.... even if global processing is turned off.

But it seems to work fine, so no big deal.

woodslanding

my guess of GetGlobalArrayString doesn't work.

(I'm using usine from last october while I wait for the authorisation for the new version, so let me know if this has been added since....)

Thanks!

Edit: talking about via script, btw....

woodslanding

Thanks that is very helpful. All my GA's are in track 1, but so are most of the scripts!

woodslanding

Okay, if I mis-name the GA, it is properly created! Usine doesn't have a problem with the script trying to access a non-existent array. (Although it does throw an error, it is not an access violation). But if I try to access an existing array too early, it causes an access violation. I solved this b...

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Okay, removing the lines referring to the GA from the scripts cured the problem.

So an actual patching question:

How can I let the script know when the GA is actually operational so I can read and write to it?

woodslanding

I may be in a catch-22 here. If I try to remove or rename the non-functioning GA, I get this error: [1408] Error : PROC:globalArrayRemoveClient ERROR:Access violation at address 0000000000523CEB in module 'Usine.exe'. Read of address FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Maybe this prevents the wkp from saving correctly...

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I am having a problem with global arrays. The most recent such array I used is not being recognized after restarting the app and loading the wkp. Before filing a bug report, I want to make sure there isn't something I'm forgetting about. Should the following situation be possible?? Can you create a ...

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Thanks! I am still curious what particular brand of pascal Usine uses.... I found a workaround that keeps my code more readable: for i = 0 to max for j = 0 to max idx = //compute from i and j do stuff with array[idx] However, I am now wishing for dynamic arrays in my second dimension, where each arr...

woodslanding

okay, ctl-p, VERY HELPFUL!!!

I like constant for checking values also. THANKS!

woodslanding

this syntax is from pascal forums:

var x: array [1..5, 1..9] of integer;

but usine complains about the comma.

Can we use multi-dimensional arrays? If so how?

And more broadly, what variant of pascal does usine actually employ??

THANKS!
-eric

woodslanding

Thanks for the suggestions! I have been refactoring, and I am very happy to be able to address single parameters in a vst via objects, without sending around and rewriting the whole array. This alone has made a huge CPU difference. Before I was changing various params in various places, and merging ...

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Just now saw this response.... did this happen? I'm not seeing it....

EDIT: I see, you have to pin it first. Is there a reason it's not in the main menu?

Anyway, thanks!

woodslanding

Okay, here's some serious nostalgia.... 2008.. BEFORE USINE. Using Reaktor. Boy that was hard. reaktorControl.gif 2010... Spent a lot of time on skeumorphics! usineRigControl.jpg 2012... To hell with skeumorphics: Usine.jpg 2013... This is what the hardware looked like: DucktapeRig.jpg 2013... Softw...

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I am trying to cut back on my CPU in a big way, to be able to run my setup on my old processor... saving and loading preset files from disk, and recall of wkp control values has made it possible to run with fewer channels, I am most of the way there. Since I am now addressing all my controls via obj...

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I thought the script could not run with the main engine off. My scripts don't usually. But if you turn off processing from within the script, the rest of the script will still run??

I will try it.

woodslanding

Well, I moved everything to processIdle, and now I don't get errors.

However, it takes about 15 seconds for it to run, in an otherwise empty wkp. It seems odd to me that usine would use so much processor when there are no actual audio objects....

Thoughts?

cheers,
-e

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I feel like I mentioned this before, but I didn't find it. My backup patch generates its own mini-trace, in a popup window, so I can see which files are backed up. Unfortunately the text area module does not have an option for a scrollbar, so the only way to view all the text is from the inspector f...

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I have a script that backs up my file tree of presets and patches, since I now have my wkp running on two different machines, and need to keep both instances synced. It works great. The only problem is that I get a huge string of audio dropout errors when I run it. And of course the script won't run...

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Here's the script, if it's useful to anybody.... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // TOUCH FADER // eric moon 2024 // Wire this up to a fader to get a feature where you can touch the fader at a // spot, and it will go to that value. // dragging works as usual. // set logIN...

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well, some more experimenting. I tried mouse * mouse, and that was better. mouse^4 seems about right. Guess that will do!

cheers,
-e

woodslanding

I've been trying to create script that adds touch functionality to a fader. So if you touch it without dragging, it goes immediately to the position of the touch. Eventually, I'd like to have it move to the value at a specific rate, but that comes later. It works fine so far, but then I realized tha...

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Here's the script, in case it's useful to someone. It only does capital letters so far. I'm not sure what to do about that--I am not checking the shift key, so I would expect all lower case letters. I will look into it more, but this will work okay for now. //////////////////////////////////////////...

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Went searching through the forums, and tracked down Chr(keynum) command. Working great! I'll post my patch when I get it a little more debugged.... would be nice to put that in the string part of the scripts page of the manual.

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I am working on a script that would turn a switch into a text fader, because the entry popup in a text fader is so small. I am running into a problem trying to convert keycodes to text. Is there a usine method for turning keycodes into strings or chars? I am not having luck tracking that down. I kno...

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Well, there is a problem with this. If I escape from the textfield, because I changed my mind, that leaves the mouse value hot, and if I press enter from some other textfield, or for any other reason, it fires, and sends the data. Trying to figure this out... Would sure be nice to have an 'is editin...

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Coming back to this years later.

This patch makes me unreasonably happy. A text fader that triggers on enter, even if the text is unchanged. So great!

Mouse in makes sure enter key doesn't have an effect unless the text is open for editing...

cheers!

EnterText.usine-subpatch: (16.35 KiB) Downloaded 715 times

woodslanding

I guess I should move this to patching forum, sorry.

This can work, except that I'm not sure how to know when the wkp is done saving.... is there a way to know this?

I guess for now, I can have a 'backup wkp' feature that just copies, renames and moves Autoload.

woodslanding

Reading the manual it looks like this should be in the master panel, but it doesn't seem to be. Rename wkp would also work for my purposes. Okay, as usual, asking the question provides the answer. I think I can have a button that runs a script that: 1.saves the wkp (always called autoload) 2.copies ...

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well I only found a couple of errors that I know of. One issue I think might be that when a script is initialized, there may not be values at all the inputs. I traced N, and found times when I expected a value, but usine didn't have one yet. Not sure that's an actual problem, but I put in checks any...

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okay already bug fixes. I think I fixed an init bug. Also, put a selected commatext out, because I needed that too. And in the wkp, there was jitter, so now the loop is only closed when the mouse is down.

MatrixSwapWithPipe.pat: v1.1 fixed init issue and jitter.; (33.65 KiB) Downloaded 712 times

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It's not often I make something that I think might be useful for someone else. My wkp is not really modular at all! But here's something that might be useful to someone else. I like to read my matrices newspaper style in columns, rather than across by rows. I also have need to store a multi-selectio...

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I have a recurring type of small bug in my wkp. This happens when I set an object's value, and that value happens to be the same value it was before, so hasChanged doesn't see it... but the user has changed the next thing in line in the meantime, so now the two objects are out of sync. I'm contrasti...

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Well, I'm crazy excited because after 12(or more?) years of building my wkp in Usine, it is finally doing what I envisioned at the beginning. Thanks to Olivier et al for making this amazing software, thanks especially for Usine objects, and VST loadFromFileDirect which were both total game-changers ...

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Most of the time I have the IB window open. I would never need to open the racks window except to add devices, which happens every few years.... Otherwise, I only use the rack view for navigating between patch windows. I wish I could use keycommands to move around patches from within the patch windo...

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here's what I came up with... it seems to work. I just keep sending the trigger to load until I get a loaded command back from the patch.

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In my wkp, I use LOADPATCH to load a new patch that hosts a vst. Then I want send it a LOAD FROM FILE DIRECT command. Problem is, in my large workspace (it works fine in a smaller test bed) it seems like there is a delay before the busses get connected, so the LOAD FROM FILE command doesn't go throu...

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It's great that I can see the object path in the inspector for a control, thanks!

But it is frustrating that I can't see the WHOLE global path, and can't select or copy it, to use or to look at in a text editor....

EDIT: That said, usine Objects are GREAT!!!!

woodslanding

The editor looks much improved, but I still prefer to do most editing in VSCode. If I save the file from vscode, I can just reload it into the script. But that means opening the fileselector and selecting the file every time. A reload button would sure help when you are going back and forth 100 time...

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The trace window has gotten worse not better in HH 6. I used to be able to open a more readable window by clicking, now it just copies to clipboard, which is even more awkward. Can we just get a trace window font size/color control? And maybe a filter? The low-contrast 6-point font is impossible for...

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Well, I re-wrote the script so it doesn't need to send an Array out. I still don't understand why it's not working, but I guess I don't need to know, for now.

woodslanding

here's my test patch:

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Again, if I change the value of the first cell, all arrayOUT values update correctly. But even though the callback method always gets called, it only works when the first arrayIN value changes.

Thanks

woodslanding

I have a script that aims to display matrix data in columns. It works fine for the text of the cells, but I recently tried to use it to reorder the cells values, and I'm having trouble with the array ins and outs. Basically the output array only changes if the first item in the input array changes. ...

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Okay, well, I have about 100 quick links in each channel, and they don't work in poly. Not sure how much CPU that saves, but it's going to be a lot of work to replace them, there are so many nested deep in subpatches. So maybe I'll backburner this for now. I guess many of them could get/send values ...

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Thanks Oli.... yeah, that was the basic idea... currently each rack is ins-> InputProcessing->GUI->VstHosting->outputProcessing->outs. But the midi is just passed through the gui block, as it doesn't get directly modified there anyway. However, most of the busses are scope RACK, which will change. N...

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Thanks for all the info. I was just revisiting the mac idea. Senso's note about PC optimizations seems like a probable deal-breaker. Sylvain, my wkp is mostly all about VST hosting, so yes, I am at the mercy of VST mfgs. So in that sense, it may not matter as much? I also have started using UNIFY as...

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In previous versions of my wkp, I have tried using a single poly object for most of the interface, since my paradigm is a mixer with a set of functionally identical channels. The advantage is that if I make an architectural change to a channel, I can just reset polyphony and the whole UI is rebuilt ...

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Can't figure out how to do this.... there is a set value for GA color, but that is not working for me....

EDIT: checked the manual, needed to create the GA module, working now.

woodslanding

Anyone else have any experience? I'm thinking of trying to run my setup on a mac laptop... so far no laptop has been capable enough. I have a RYZEN 5900x desktop machine currently, and it is right at capacity running my wkp at 128/44.1. **Almost** never drops out. Any sense which mac would be requir...

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+1 for ableton link.

I've been hand-synching with tap tempo all my life, but I am doing a new project where sync would be really useful, and the rest of the band is using link....

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They come up as tall as my window, and often I only need to see the first line. And sometimes I need a lot of them open.... would be nice to be able to make them small. Also, it would be nice to have breadcrumbs in the flagged window for the situation where I am opening a bunch of windows for simila...

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Could 'settings' be an option in 'where'? I could move it to settings to look at it, and move it back where it belongs when I'm done... That said, the workaround above with caption works. 'show in patch' in settings is a bigger deal, especially on the tiny monitor I use live. In fact, since my IB is...

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senso wrote: ↑
07 Jan 2023, 15:52
did you try the 'include' directive ?
{$include C:\Users\senso\Desktop\test.fastscript}

I had no clue.

That's great!!

Can you reference the application path, or does it have to be hard coded?

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https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html Well, RME's midi implementation isn't much better, as it too is based on Mackie Control. You have to send a midi message to put it in a particular mode, and then send a midi value to a slider. Depending on the mode, the same midi data can contro...

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Here is a means of addressing the volumes of all inputs and outputs of total mix, for anyone who might need it. It's really amazing to me that a company as sharp as RME has such a ridiculous and kludgey implementation, that actually requires up to three messages to get a specific action done. But th...

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okay, got some help here, https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=25417

Will have a utility patch together soon and will post it.

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I know it's been a while, but I finally got to this, and it is is great, thanks! I cleaned it up some more. It's now a poly patch that has sliders for multiple channels' inputs. However I can't figure out the addresses for outputs. The tutorial from the manual pages says to enable osc messages in th...

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Is there a way to do this? I'd like to remember the settings of a VST in a preset, but it's annoying that it also moves the window to wherever it was when I saved it... I guess this might be useful sometimes, but it isn't to me.... But maybe it's just part of the data from the VST, and there's nothi...

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It is working on my machine in the newest version, thanks! Both saveToFile() and loadFromFile() still don't work when I put them in processIdle() though.... and excecution stops at that line, so if I put a flag after the command it is never reached, and I get an endless loop. I'm hoping these text f...

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Okay, here is a test wkp that highlights what is happening. All I have to do is add a subfolder to the path in, and the script fails. In this patch, you can press the save button and it saves. Change the selector from 0 to 1, and it adds a subfolder to the path. Now press save. The patch does not sa...

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It only works when the instIN is an empty string! Getting there...

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Okay, I will try to simplify when I get a chance, but the following script works fine in usine 221115 and does not work in the two most recent Usine versions. EDIT: never mind, there is something else going on. This does work in an empty wkp in the newest version. const DBUG_ON = TRUE; const CHAN = ...

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yeah, I know. But I thought there might be something obvious in there to someone more experienced than I. And I wasn't particularly expecting to hear from the developer... I've gotten help with far more complex scripts than this on the Reaper forum, but of course never ever from the development team...

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The script saves and loads state for a set of controls into a text file, via object commands. It creates a list of tags, and a corresponding list of addresses for the controls in the patch. In this script, the line just before the saveToFile() line gets printed, but the method stops there, and the f...

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Any Idea what to do about this error on startup?

I'm on the xmas 2022 version.

thanks,
=e

woodslanding

Just bumping this. I'd love to have a good looper in HH. I'm holding off reworking the old one, (from HH2, maybe??) and hoping for some of these feature upgrades to the sampler module....

woodslanding

For a mostly-one-man-and-a-few-friends operation, Usine has become an amazing program. Well it was always amazing considering that fact, now it's just plain amazing period! It's so solid for me now-- even when doing heavy patching and scripting it's going days without a crash (save your work often w...

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Wow, noticing now that even cables can be pinned, that is AWESOME!!!!

(would be nice to have 'show in patch' there too....)

Also, I see a 'breakpoint' switch here. Is this in the manual yet? I'll have to look.

woodslanding

I just discovered that you can pin multiple param windows. WOW, COOL! So helpful.... But now, a 'show in patch' button there would be even more useful, for navigating back and forth between patching windows.... EDIT: Very clever to use the caption value as a monitor. A trick I will use many times, I...

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Oftentimes I have a control in my large wkp that is not easy to find or display. It might be invisible, or nested deep in containers in the IB which isn't currently open. Or it might be right there in the control panel, but obscured by other windows. All I want to do is check its value. Is there a r...

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Great!! I can certainly be patient

woodslanding

It would be nice to have a filter for console messages. But there are some other improvements I'd like to see. First off, the trace text is the hardest to see in the entire UI. I have to take off my glasses and get within an inch of the screen to tell a 5 from an 8. This is the only text in the UI t...

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I have a few methods I end up putting in almost every script. eventually.... Would be nice to be able to include some of my own methods in a script, without having to copy them every time. When I program Reaper via LUA, it's easy to do includes, so I created a utility file full of methods. not a hug...

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That all sounds good. I'm not sure how the issue of Script not referring to a file on disk is a problem to allow reloading. A patch in my wkp is also not on disk, but it does implement a 'reload patch' function. How is that done? I'm just thinking the script could work the same way.... I guess maybe...

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Thanks!!

woodslanding

There used to be an option to suppress the constant stream of error messages when a file is not found in a script call. Is that gone? Or do I just not know where to look?

My attempts to find the problem are thwarted because my debugging messages get lost in the sea of errors.

woodslanding

I think just having a 'RELOAD SCRIPT' button in the editor would go a long ways. Then I can save changes from my editor and just press the 'reload' button. Of course this means that the script needs to keep track of its source file like patches do. BTW, is there a way to find out what file a patch r...

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One tiny related bug? fr?

I note that when a file does not have an extension, ExtractFileExtension returns the entire filename, instead of an empty string. Not too hard to work around, but not what I would expect....

woodslanding

Bumping this. It would also be really nice in comment modules.

woodslanding

I know that creating a good text editor is not a priority, and I have a huge list of requests for improving the existing editor to get it to the point where I would be comfortable using it for more than adding a missing semi-colon to the end of a line. Even that can be frustrating. Is there a space ...

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I'd like to get the parent path of a file. so HH/mystuff/myfile.txt would return HH/mystuff. I'm not finding much in the docs that's useful. I see a 'pos' command that could be used to find path delimiters, but not sure how to get the location of the last delimiter. Also no substring methods I can s...

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Yes, I've requested that before, but it does seem challenging to implement. You would have to show a special version of the parameter editor containing only the parameters that all the objects had in common, (hopefully with a large indicator that you are changing the parameters of multiple objects.)...

woodslanding

Sorry, my bad. How did I miss that?

these lists are indeed getting huge. maybe they need a search function! :0

woodslanding

Thanks, Senso, that's great!

Can someone explain the meaning of 'const' in these definitions? I've never encountered it in arguments to a method before this release.

EDIT: of course, as soon as I hit send, I think of a possibility... does it mean you can't change its value in the method body??

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I want to know if it's open or not. I know where it is, of course! I want to turn on certain features if the user is trying to edit them via the popup, so I want the visibility of the popup to be able to trigger something else. I guess it needs to be a FR. The popup just needs an output terminal: is...

woodslanding

I can't use expert settings with the beta version! When will I be able to access the full version of the beta?

I've been asking over and over again since the spring.

woodslanding

Last time I checked this was not possible, but Olivier said he planned to implement it. Has this happened? Suddenly a bigger issue, because I cannot supress the endless trace of 'file not found' messages in the beta FREE version--the page with the option to suppress is unavailable. But there are rea...

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sweet, thanks!

woodslanding

Well, just had my first installer ask where to put the clap file. That's 1 out of 850 or so

woodslanding

Love it!!!

woodslanding

I'm stuck with the free version of the beta, and I really don't like the selection border in the IB. But I do like it in the rack area, so I can be sure I'm saving the correct patch. Would be nice to be able to turn it off in the IB only.

hooray for breadcrumbs!!!!

woodslanding

I can check the 'where' on most containers, but not on the popup. Is there another way?

I can certainly go back to using generic containers for popups, as I used to back in HH3 days.... but wondering if there is an easier solution....

woodslanding

I do not know what was going wrong. It suddenly started working. Maybe a space in a control name or something??? Anyway, all good now. No need for variants, just getting the string I wanted. suddenly. inexplicably.

woodslanding

I actually don't need to query the variant for its type, I know it's a string. I just can't figure out how to get its string value.

Edit: It is actually a string value. It's just always equal to '83'.

Edit: I managed to get a different string okay, (YAY!) so there's something else going on....

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Can someone put that in a little more context? Like how to use it with getObject? I tried this: var st: string; var v: TVarType; v := getObject(address); st := varType(varString); that's not it. It gives an assignment error (which I would include here if it was possible to select text from the scrip...

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Fixed in the Beta.

woodslanding

Fixed in the beta, but new issues, sent bug report.

woodslanding

Currently, regardless of whether there is an alt-title on a module, you can only access it's primary value via its caption name in getObject(). In the case of controls that are dynamically named, i.e. by the vst parameter name associated with their value, you can only access them via the truncated/d...

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No other application I commonly use does this on startup.

As I was scanning vsts, the Startup screen perfectly covered all the login pages in my browser for 10 minutes...

woodslanding

Downloaded the beta, and disappointed that window sizes and positions are still not remembered. Especially when some script error makes usine crash repeatedly, I feel like I'm spending half my time resizing and moving windows around so I can work again.

woodslanding

Well, I got this mostly working, but the above is a real headache. If I query the control for its caption, I still need to add dashes (and truncate it?) in order to get the actual ID of the control. It did occur to me to just use the Alt-name of the control, but that gives me nothing. Also, my textf...

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I've not seen the type 'variant' before. Is there a way to query what type it is?? How do I know whether to treat it as a string or a value?

woodslanding

So I am trying the usine objects, and running into a problem. When I have a control whose name is changed programatically, I create a custom name for it that will not change, using alt-click. Problem is, now in the local object name list, the simple value for the control shows up under the caption n...

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thanks so much for the example .pat, that is really helpful. Looks like there is good support for loading and saving these to disk as well...

woodslanding

Wondering what they are, but more importantly, can I remove them from the title bar??

Otherwise, the beta looks very nice!

woodslanding

okay I see it in the beta. It looks like the scope of this is necessarily the WKP? And there is no way to set this programatically?? There's no inlet for it on the module, looks like. If so, this won't work in my case, as I have 15 identical GUIs, one for each channel, and don't want to change the n...

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Below are popups from two patches. They are identical, except that I reset poly on the textfields at the bottom on the right side popup. The only change is that I turned off show in/outlet for a control that didn't require it. Poly stayed the same, no controls were moved, rewired or renamed. But aft...

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I thought I had the solution. It seemed like the problem was that the key out never changed...

But this still has the problem that I cannot change the value of text 2, even when 'pass' is off. The pass output shows [-1], but the value still won't change.

woodslanding

Okay, this seems to work pretty well... enterKey.png (for some reason, the 'key' output on the keyboard module is always zero.) The problem here, which I never know how to solve, is that if I put a PIC module before the text 2 fader, then change the text 2 fader value, and want to update it back to ...

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Sometimes PIC module isn't perfect. For regular faders, I can check mousedown. But the mouse is not down when I'm typing into a text fader. The important thing is when I press Enter, and I'd like to use that as a trigger....

Thoughts?

Thanks!!!!

woodslanding

I'm not seeing a field for this on the remote page....

Is it only in the beta?

woodslanding

Edit: removed old question I figured out the answer to... So it looks like there is one disadvantage vs. IML. The IML code for a control doesn't change if I move it from one sub-patch to another, as long as it's in the parent patch. Either way, I can just address it by its title. But with objects, t...

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Yikes, this looks amazing! Thanks!

woodslanding

I tried this: function getIMLString(control: string) : string; var text: string; begin SendUsineMsg('SET_TARGET_PATCH','PARENT_PATCH'); SendUsineMsg('GET_STRING_VALUE', control, '1', text); debug('got IML from ' + control + ': ' + text); result := text; end But I get an error: 'don't know which over...

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Currently I'm using sends and dedicated inputs on my script, to get control values. But it occurs to me my wkp would be a lot cleaner if I just got the control values via IML, especially since I've already named all the controls. But I'm not clear what the syntax would be for that.... Is there an ex...

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okay, I put a countdown in and it seems to be working. Thanks anyway...

Always helpful to figure out how to explain your problem to someone else!!

woodslanding

okay, I remembered the trace within a trace, and the IML does seem to be going through: process msg SET_TARGET_PATCH PARENT_PATCH SET_VAR patch 4928425519550224534 = D:\WINDOWS_MOON\Desktop\HH 5\gui.pat process msg SET_STRING_VALUE INST 1 Reaktor Set String Value INST 1 Reaktor process msg SET_TARGE...

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This code works on the text fader, for control = 'MYTEXTFADER' and data = 'name': SendUsineMsg('SET_TARGET_PATCH','PARENT_PATCH'); SendUsineMsg('SET_STRING_VALUE',control,'1',data); but this code does not seem to be changing the value of a button, for control = 'MYBUTTON' and data = '1': SendUsineMs...

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Sorry my title wasn't more precise...

RE: Addressing controls in Poly subpatches via IML

Thoughts, anyone?

woodslanding

I avoid using button groups wherever possible, because I'm afraid of the consequences of using an existing button group number in a complex workspace. So it would be great to be able to search for button groups in the search box. Even better would be to be able to name button groups, rather than jus...

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I re-read through the templates docs, and then I tried: 1. Re-naming an object in a specific voice. But no IML is created in the console. 2. Drag and Drop to a specific voice. But the IML does not seem to include any indication of which voice it was dropped into. It does look like maybe I can set po...

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To be clear, the issue seems to be that if you send load_patch a load command before it has finished a previous load, it goes into an unstable state.

woodslanding

Is there a syntax for setting the value of controls inside a poly sub-patch via IML? Of course, they all have the same name, so there would have to be additional syntax for the voice number...

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And along the same lines.... when I use the search function, I get the rather unhelpful [order=nnnnn] indicator. The channel and slot would be much more helpful information. I'll also note that the search window stays on top of other applications, so I had to close it to finish writing this post: 20...

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While I'm at navigation in the patching window.... It would be nice to be able to use the stock browser window commands, alt-left and alt-right to navigate the patching window's < and >. I'll also note that when navigating this way, the above clues to location would be even more helpful, especially ...

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I have a lot of deliberately identical patches across multiple racks. It would be nice if the patch editing window showed which rack (and maybe slot) I was editing. For now, I'm often not sure which patch I edited, and need to select a patch, drill down to the subpatch, and see if the edit is there....

woodslanding

Well, good grief, that was simple. It did not like the 'has changed' module on the output of the commatext module. I just took it out, and it loads just fine.

case closed. carry on. thanks anyway

woodslanding

]I am trying to implement global patch saving for my setup, which is challenging, as it requires loading a particular patch from memory via script, and then loading a patch for it from memory. I have the mechanism figured out, but I hit a snag. For some reason, when the LOAD trigger is sent via a di...

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This is the problem when I go back to Pascal, after programming in anything else for a while... :/

THANKS!

woodslanding

well, except I can't run my wkp under the beta

woodslanding

I tried to download the wrapper, but windows says the zip file is invalid...

woodslanding

That's a bummer. I have a feeling there is still no laptop that can run my setup. My 5900 desktop machine is doing very well, but I don't have much headroom at 64 samples.... don't know if there is a laptop out yet that could match it. Don't want to go back to higher latency just for portability. I ...

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This method is not working for me. Maybe I misunderstand the syntax? Here is my method: procedure findFileAndLoad; var filenames : TStringList; var nsfile,targetName : string; var i:integer; begin if targetNameIN.length > 0 then begin //get commatext for file list input filenames.setCommatext(fileli...

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It looks like I fixed it by reinstalling the offending plugins. Should have thought of that earlier....

woodslanding

well, it has now happened with BIOME, which is a completely different developer to Reaktor, Gtr Rig, or Kontakt. In BIOME's case it's actually been a good source of new random presets. Not so with the others, which make sustained 0 db noises that sometimes shut down my audio interface. I tried putti...

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BTW, I am using the most recent non-beta, under windows 10 server.

I looked in the log to try to see where the holdup is, but the timing in the log is only accurate to the minute.

woodslanding

In my wkp, both Kontakt and Guitar Rig are loading up in some sort of invalid state that leads to loud unpleasant noises on startup. In the case of Guitar Rig, it's immediate and constant. In the case of Kontakt, it is only when I play a note. In both cases, the output is extremely loud. It seems to...

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Seems like I can trace it back to a windows update.... but does anybody have any idea why this would be happening, or what to do about it??

All VSTs are taking much more time than they used to, but some large Kontakt ensembles can take a full minute to show the GUI...

Thoughts?

woodslanding

Just curious if anyone here has made the jump. The price of the new Mini is tempting me.... not looking forward to porting, of course.

woodslanding

I'm seeing pretty good uptake on this, so maybe there's something to it. Fingers crossed!

woodslanding

It would be really nice if it took off, and plug-in support could be open source.

That said, until the big players buy in, it's not so useful....

woodslanding

If this has been fixed, I definitely need to update! Is this fixed in the main branch, or only in the beta? There are times when all I can do is force quit usine to get out of this! Sometimes I can get an alt command key to work on the window, but other times not. Obviously only a problem in fullscr...

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I do use unify within HH, works fine.

Running HH as a vst would be awesome, although it would take a powerful computer if your wkp is very big...

Usine used to back in the day, but I'm not sure there are plans to do it again.

Could you use Rewire to similar effect?

woodslanding

well, it doesn't appear linux is supported by my RME UFX interface, so I probably don't care

woodslanding

Every few years, after a particularly annoying windows update, or what have you, I wonder about moving to Linux. Seems like the majority of plug-ins I use will work with WINE these days. Has anyone tried runnning HH under Linux? I know there's a Mac version now, not sure that helps.... Thoughts? che...

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--The preset manager will be rewritten in the next major release, with many new features.--

Backward compatibility, or bulk conversion option, I hope!! I have over 750 HH preset files now, and more every day!

woodslanding

OSC, huh? Wow, I am really not up to speed on that! If you could post those patches, that would be awesome.

Otherwise I'll look into it...

-- and now I do recall using a virtual driver when I had this working under the old Usine.

woodslanding

Yeah, RME drivers all the way for me. I'm getting 15 racks at 64 with no problems so far, and I haven't really optimized windows or the CPU yet. I did read that at the moment, windows 11 will compromise latency on Ryzen processors, so best to wait to upgrade. But I hope nobody here is thinking of ju...

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Is there a way for Usine to appear as a midi source to other apps? (in this case totalmix)
I can control levels in TM from my physical midi interfaces, but can't figure out how to control it straight from Usine. Is this possible?

thanks!

woodslanding

Well, I checked it out, and I guess I will not use it. First of all, it still requires a drag to change values and second, it's a separate mode that has to be switched on or off. My fader goes to value when pressed like a button (on mouseup, of course) and changes value relatively when dragged. Ther...

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let me know when you do, so I can try it out....

woodslanding

well, alright then, I will check it out!

woodslanding

Wondering which way I should set windows.... I know it used to be background services, but I'm wondering if that has changed.

Using Windows 10 server edition 2022 if that matters.

woodslanding

Well yes I think I am actually using hollyhock correctly to get pretty good use of threads. I have each VST in its own rack, and all communication between them is via sends. I was having some clicks with modulation events but I was able to move some stuff to process idle, and it's actually working w...

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The intel stuff is going to be way too hot for me to run for a long time yet.... I'm worried about cooling 105w, never mind 165 or 180. And I do want to do something now. Zen3 seems to be working really well at very low latencies. I do have all my inter-rack connections as busses, so that's good. Se...

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Nothing, it all worked fine when I started with a new fader. The text runs all along the bottom now. I think in the conversion from V4 values for H and W got confused. Looks like the text is limited in width to the fader's height.

woodslanding

would need to be an -option- for sure...not a good default behavior.... but it did seem to be reliable for me in my implementation. And with a slow curve, you would have a chance to recover from a mis-touch. One note: I have been noticing that my faders sometimes jump to max value and back to my fin...

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Thanks for this, joffo. The env follower solution seems ideal to me. Probably takes more CPU, so I'll have to wait for my new computer to implement it. But it will hopefully solve the problem of not hearing tails when disabling a patch (and then hearing them when I re-enable it!) Oh wow, looking fur...

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Ariajazz wrote: ↑
11 Sep 2021, 15:31

I could not be able to send a bug report. It seems that the page has been close. "contact & support" page does not open, 404 error appears instead.

Look on the forum in the bug report subforum. There's a simple email address to send the report.

woodslanding

+1 I have been asking for this for a while. With Usine's incredibly frequent release schedule (not complaining!) and three computers using it to one degree or another, (and files going back and forth) trying to keep up with updates is a struggle. Would really like to see a FF type model, where if yo...

woodslanding

My hopeful YES was correct!

Guess it was an old cookie that was confusing it. Not entirely surprising it was on every one of my computers....

problem solved!

woodslanding

Read up a little more, and deleted my cookies.... will this work??

YES!

woodslanding

Because on all three of my computers, (including the live performance computer that has only been on a few dozen websites ever) I cannot post to this forum from firefox, I just get an error message. I keep all three updated with the latest versions. Luckily I have chrome on my laptop, so that's what...

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I guess the advantage of the menu is that:
1. Larger items are easier to drag to
2. Long list is organized into pages
3. It already has scrollbars

But indeed, may not be worth the trouble for the small convenience

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I've become spoiled by running at 64 samples now under HH5, but a lot of my resource intensive Kontakt libraries won't play at the lower blocksize. And I'm wanting to add features again, as the program has become very stable for me... Thinking to get a Ryzen, and wondering how Usine does with variou...

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I have my presets on disk in folders by instrument, and then subfolders for banks, and I'm organizing them as time goes by. Soon I'd like to start using master presets... but it's very likely a preset might have moved from the folder it was in when the global preset was saved. So I'd like to write a...

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Okay, I wrote a script to do the conversion... but it concerns me that someday I might make some kind of edit to a patch, and then it won't load its old presets any more?

I guess if that happens, I'll just have to do another conversion.

woodslanding

Perfect, thanks!

woodslanding

I have been doing a lot of patching to modules' unusual connections, such as background color and cursor color, and have found it very awkward to do so. The module must be first opened up. Then dragged upward, often 2 or 3 times, while looking for the appropriate item. Then the cable can be attached...

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seems like this is an artifact of the v4 conversion. Started with a new fader, and it's fine.

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1. I like the onscreen keyboard. I guess it's not new, but I haven't used it before, I've used the windows keyboard, but that's awkward because I have to leave full screen mode to get at it. But I'm wishing for the option not to show it on textfields in the menu. I find the menu completely unusable ...

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Got it, thanks.... One more thing. Trying to get the caption to take up the whole bottom half of a horizontal fader. Is there a way to do this? Every setting seems to allow only part of the area to be used.... regardless of left right or center alignment, the caption never moves out of the lower rig...

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I discovered the hard way that if I simply type values into an array get set module output, they are not remembered on restart. If I basically just want an array of constants, what is the most straightforward way to patch this? I'd rather not have a whole bunch of constant modules, but I could do th...

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In my failed attempt to move my workspace to reaper, I had occasion to develop my own gui widgets, using the excellent scythe toolkit for reaper. (Long story short, all the gui stuff worked great, but reaper's real time capability was completely insufficient!) I set up my faders so that they worked ...

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Interesting saga, but it's working now. Suddenly, I saw the presets for normal faders (not legacy) show up in the view menu. So I took a snapshot of another similar fader, and applied it to the ones in this patch. Now they operate correctly.... so some odd fader conversion issue. I do notice that so...

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found the hide/show poly order control under the view menu....

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In the V3, I had a switch to change all of these views, as I almost always change them together: Fullscreen Show IB Hide Menu In that version they were toggles, which meant that if I did change just one of them, the settings got out of sync. Now it seems like they are switches, but I cannot get all ...

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Or maybe a new way to do things?? Or the feature just moved somewhere else? Load patch on startup. --At least it's not where it used to be. Array Editor --is there any better way than editing output value using semicolons? Awkward for large arrays.... Don't show Poly number in caption --Buttons and ...

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As soon as I set poly on this fader bank, the faders stop working. I even copied the fader from another working fader, and as soon as I set poly it stopped working.

Maybe a bug, but maybe user error? This used to work fine under V4.

faderIssue.pat: (208.54 KiB) Downloaded 263 times

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This is so far and away the ugliest part of what has become a very elegant program. I have gotten to the point where I copy and paste into vscode even when all I need to do is add a semi-colon to the end of a line. The kerning is so weird it often looks like there's a space in the middle of a word. ...

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sometimes I like to use the text panel to view text, not just program with it. So it would be nice to have the option to wrap the lines, so you could see it all....

Assuming I didn't just miss the setting for it

woodslanding

okay, this has been working really well, and the controls on the new PM make it very easy to wire up! I've rearchitected my WKP to use the new method, and it loads in 20 seconds rather than 4 minutes! It also uses half the memory. But I am having a problem with Keyscape. It won't load presets create...

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Also, I often forget to plug in my pedal controller, or power up the Roli Seaboards (which do not turn on when they see power, unfortunately) and that requires a Rescan. Ironically, I am most likely to forget when I have a very short time to setup, i.e on poorly planned festival shows! Would be nice...

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It's probably a bad connection somewhere internally, but occasionally my KX8 controller seizes up in performance, usually after an especially loud large chord. I used to think it required restarting Usine, but recently learned that a simple Reset MIDI Devices command will work. So I'd like to add th...

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As promised, HH5 supports saving and loading presets to disk. Olivier has suggested that the instability I've encountered in my WKP is likely due to the huge number of presets in the WKP. Presets for VSTs such as Kontakt and Reaktor can be truly huge, and my WKP is over a gigabyte as a result. This ...

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Okay, every time I read the new features for a major release, I ask myself: features, smeatures, how long will it take before I can run my setup under the new version? Usine1->2. 6 months (at 10-12 hrs a week.) Usine2->3 2 months Usine3->4 1 week Usine4->5 15 minutes All I can say, is WOW, Usine HAS...

woodslanding

As I mentioned, the trace showed a couple of errors, which I was able to track down... but that was it.... and I still have instability. How did you know about my array bounds issues originally??? maybe I could send you the current wkp and see if those errors still show up to you... maybe there is s...

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gotcha, thanks

woodslanding

Okay, I've gone through and updated all my wkp scripts for the new syntax. There were not as many as I thought, about 25, many quite simple. In the process, I have looked for possible issues with arrays being out of bounds, and haven't found anything yet. Found a few tstringlists that didn't get des...

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Hmmm, maybe they have to use the new constructors?? No that didn't do it. Is this another manual tease from the V5?? Looks like many objects are showing up, but I'm not seeing anything deeper than the first subpatch layer either. My thought was to write a script to deliver me a list of all my script...

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I realize I buried this request in another post about something else. Here it is. The newest v4 runs my wkp, and has pointed up a few existing script array out of bounds errors errors in the trace (THANK YOU!!) but still, I don't have to edit much before some script or other starts addressing wrong,...

woodslanding

Sure could use more example scripts. And looks like the existing ones have not been updated to the V2 syntax....

I'm sure everybody knows that already

But a good selection of examples built-in seems like a really good idea.

woodslanding

one question: there is a lot of new syntax. Will using this syntax improve speed, or is it just for readability and ease of writing?

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