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Hi feeling up the idea of selling my gateway C-5815 (Same as E155) Tablet PC. basic specs: Intel Core 2 Duo U7500(1.06GHz) 12.1" Wide XGA pen and finger wacom (sp?) screen 1.5GB Memory DDR2 667 120GB HDD Dual layer DVD Burner Intel GMA950 1-firewire 2-usb it's in great condition EXCEPT the hinge is ...

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kewl is a improper spelling for clue.

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very interesting idea 23fx23, i'll have to look into that more. i don't think deckadance has anything like that stock.

I might also begin working on a 5-band eq filter setup instead of just low and hi, using a few LP filters and this inverse trick.

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yeah it works great and it was very easy to setup. just so people can see what it looks like, i took a snapshot of my test design. http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9422/usineinverseexample.jpg when the crossfader is 0 you have HP, at 1 you have LP, at .5 you have combo of both. edit ignore that i have...

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to have complete threads for future reference, i am posting the solution that bsork provided in my other thread: "if you take the output from the filter module and subtract it from the unfiltered audio, you get what you want. If the filter is in LP mode, the "original audio - low passed" output will...

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works great in my setup, i believe i have it colourless now. thank you so much with the help everyone.

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yeah thanks bsork, up early here to start working this into my project

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thank you for clearing that up bsork. in the patching subforum post i made, 23fx23 shows a working example, including how to delay the dry audio before it is summed with the inverted lowpass, to compensate for processing time. do you know if there is any rule of thumb to this processing time? thanks

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thanks seems to work with 17 samples delay for me too. thank you so very much for figuring this out. i'll still look around at your vst suggestions but i'd like to switch my model around to this method in the mean time. do you think it would be possible to measure the amount of samples delay you nee...

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excellent! can't wait to try this when i'm in front of usine.

so i can just use a delay module on the wire between dry and audio out?

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thank you for the help with this. anything you find would be great. yeah in ableton it works, that's how bentosan's smartmixer works in ableton.

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yeah i was getting that vol lowering as well. i'll have to look into the vsts that you listed. that's what i was thinking about why this deley phase invert method isn't working (processing time) i would try the 1-input or similiar but i'm not sure how to relate phase to either db or 0 to 1, seems li...

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no i don't think i am hearing HP, it sounds like the dry does.

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thank you, the pic would be handy when you have time, i can't seem to get it

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also take a look at http://www.livelab.dk/touchpad2midi.php

freeware touchpad to midi program. you could maybe get some ideas from it to setup in usine.

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posted a new thread in patching but here is the pic but i don't think i'm doing it right? do i need to subtract the inverted from the original? i might be confusing myself but i thought you add the inverse phase to the main http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8104/usineinvertlo.jpg thanks so much. edit...

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hi, thought i would take some wise advise and try posting here in the patching questions. i'm getting help in my general topic thread about my smartmixer project and need to invert the phase of some lowpass filters. I see there is phase invert in the delay module so i'm using that with zero delay: h...

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i see the delay module has a phase invert too, could a person use that with delay at zero?

thanks

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thanks for the fast reply, still gchatting with bentosan so we are looking at this together. i think you got the right idea. i'll try it and see what happens.

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hi again, talking with bentosan more, i see an area i can improve my mixer. if you look in his diagram you see he doesn't use a highpass filter for filtering the highpass but instead uses an inverted lowpass filter. i believe the idea is that you would have the same settings on both lowpass filters ...

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thanks for responding so quickly and giving me some ideas on how to set it up. i'll keep working on it and let you know how it goes.

the invert in ableton is very handy.

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hi again, working on the patch, here is a pic of what i did, i'll go back and try to refine it as i dont really need a midi out message. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9725/usine2in1example.jpg the A-B module after the lo is A=127 to invert the fader otherwise the left hand part of the 2in1 knob...

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thank you very much and you're right, that is a good idea to ask specific questions in the particular subforum.

that's a wonderful design.

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hope to get a better understanding of the midi in usine. say i have a fader that i midi learn to be controlled by a fader on my midi controller. is there a way to see the midi data lines the occur with midi learn so that you can insert for example math modules. or do you have to add a midi in module...

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thank you that works great!

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thank you.

say is there a way to limit the range of the master tempo to allow for finer resolutions when controlling it with a midi controller? in my setup i'll probably never go to far below 120 and to high about say 135 so it would be nice to have that range.

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started working on my samples, vox, mash-up channel.

to answer my original question, usine is the ideal environment for my setup

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once i put deckadance in slow decoder/analysis mode, when loading both decks at the same time has the cpu going up to 78%, and while running with both deck a and deck b sidechain each other i am running at about 38-42% right now i have everything setup: tabletPc, eks xp-5, presonus firebox, and dj m...

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what a fantastic post! admittedly i don't understand all of it but i'll start doing some searches and ask some more questions if i can't figure it out. that thread you wanted to find by senso, i read that a couple days ago and i used the guide that was based on to setup my tabletxp. here is the quot...

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well i got it switched over from switches to faders, works great. next challenge is the crossfader. now i've been also considering cpu use and efficiency. been doing some searches and reading older posts. I was having a problem with the cpu meter spiking to 100% when loading two songs into Deckadanc...

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when using 4.22d and loading two tracks into deckadance at the same time, usine freezes up for a few seconds and i can't do anything, no mouse or keyboard input.

when using 4.22b and doing same thing, i get the cpu meter to go to 100% and the audio does stop but at least i don't get that freeze up.

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once again, thanks for your insightful post and i'm flattered with the "good job." :) usine has been very rewarding in the short time i have been using it. i'd like to have your fader1 and fader2 and crossfader as well. i'll try to get it figured out and post back if i need some help. also do you kn...

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ok so i'm wondering how i can increase or decrease the amount the compressed audio's vol gets reduced. i'd like this to be an option via knob or fader, for times when you just want a little compression and times when you want more compression. i'm thinking i need to add a math module of some type in...

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pretty sure i got my sidechain setup working, just need to tweak now. i thought about using a crossfader and i still might, but for now i am using switchs with your a*b module idea. So i have a switchAhigh and switchBhigh and i can choose which one i want dominate and or i can choose to have neither...

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back at it, this morning i clearly see what the difference between the "midi filter" and "midi transformer" is now lol.

doing some searching on the "unpack" and working on my sidechain. i'll post back how it goes.

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thanks i will check all those things tomorrow. if i have learned one thing about usine, its that you should take breaks and even say enough is enough for one day. give the mind time to reevaluate the problem. i had it happen again and i noticed it was when i was nudging with the outer ring and i acc...

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hey man, thank you for the post. i'm afraid there might be a little confusion on what sync i meant. the sync i mean is in DD, to sync the two decks together, like it beatmatches for you. like i said, it is strange to me, that everything else works fine but just that. i think you are talking about mi...

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here is a screenshot of my sidechain project so far, as you can see i still need to add at least one fader into the chain, one after each a-b out. you can also see the cool little deckadance icon in the upper right corner

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ok so with fresh eyes and mind, i cleaned it up. no faderB, no combobox. just the switch and the a+b module going right into the channel of the midi transfer. b is set at 1. testing this now and trying to see if this gives me the same problem. and it is the strangest thing, everything on the control...

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http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2687/channelchange.png ok so that faderB is set at 1, this was before i figured out i could just put a value in for B. so when the switch is off it is 0 + 1 = channel 1 select in combobox. when the switch is on it is 1+ 1= channel 2 select in combobox. thanks. is ...

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ok so i just got done playing with it for 45 min, a simple setup without the sidechain stuff, just my switch to control deck a or deck b. something isn't quite right with my setup or something, because it works most of the time but sometimes when i make the switch certain buttons on the eks xp-5 don...

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thank you for summing it up like that. i do good with checklists. I haven't tried scratching, not really my thing. you could try the demo with your mixer/soundcard and deckadance can use most timecodes if you have any around. I see you are a Live user, did you happen to check out bentosan's als for ...

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i was thinkinga 5 band eq with this idea would be sweet, i bet it produced some awesome results. thank you for the advice on the A-B module, that seems to be what im looking for. would you mind explain the 4bus thing to me starting on where it is located? thanks. deckadance does have pretty good mid...

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23fx23 wrote:you could split the freqency then use an enveloppe folower that yes, you reverse, (modules analysis) and apply to the gain of the other deck.
you can make the4x bus then make a cross fade on the "gain reducer" to choose wich one is dominant.

where is the reverse? I can't seem to find it.

thanks

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it is amazing how quickly i get responses on this forum. 23fx23, i'm going to have to search the forums for your terms, thanks for leading me in the right direction. nay-seven, yes as i get this setup to how i want it, i will be happy to share it. It was very satisfying to be able to set my controll...

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hello again, been searching around wiki and the manual, still a little feel like i could be doing something like in the picture alot easier within usine without that sidechain compressor vst. so basically the smart mixer works like this: take deck a and separates it into highs and lows using highpas...

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i would try that for sure but are you going to have to have the deckadance vst and the sidechain compressor vst that i'm using right? here is a pic of it, perhaps there are ways to do this within usine without the sidechain vst?? thanks for the help: http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8282/usinesidech...

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just a side note, pretty excited working in usine, currently setting up smart mixer that i linked above.

i think it is going smoothly

is there anyway to temp zoom out of a patch so i could take a screenshot of what i'm working on?

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using it now for the stock computer audio card (realtek) and it works so good call i'll try it. thanks.

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i'm getting a "bad asio buffer lenght (too big or too small)" message when i try to use my bcd2000's asio soundcard, and adjusting the latency in the BCDdriver doesn't seem to help.

any suggestions? that's not my main card (i have a presonus firebox) but for my test rig i use the bcd2000

thanks

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thank you for your reply, i will do some searches for those terms and try to find out more. Man do i feel silly i was using the usine pro demo and felt like i couldn't do anything really cause i couldn't save. i downloaded the free version and i should be able to save stuff now as i want it. could s...

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hi again guys, hoping for some direction from this most excellent community. For starters I should explain the way i want to use usine and perhaps people could give me advice. sincere thanks in advance. For a while now i have been experimenting with an ableton/deckadance setup for my DJ setup. Decka...

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i'm not quite getting it setup correctly. anyone mind putting it together quick and making a pat file for me to try. thanks alot.

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I think you need to press "S" store on the preset manager and click the preset nb. (first set your values on scene 1, press "S" and preset 1, then go to scene 2, adjust your values, press "S" and preset 2 ect... then swiching presets should recall respecting values. in other words, the preset manag...

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well i tried Bsork's on my vista desktop and the decay, cutoff, and resonance faders respond to vst knob movements made by the mouse, but the when i go from one preset to another, the fader position doesn't change. so if cutoff is at .27 and delay is at 76, and i'm currently on the cutoff scene when...

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you guys are great. thank you. downloaded the pat files and going to try it.

very clever indeed. the more i look at this program the more impressed i am by it. the community around it is nothing short of amazing, it is inspiring.

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yes, by what you are saying i would want a switch, other software programs call them both buttons, but differentiate between them by calling one toggle and one momentary. i'm going to try to have a go at it with a fresh mind tomorrow and you'll probably be hearing from me with my questions. i'll try...

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hello, and thank you for the welcome and the help. 1)thanks that rocks and the ideas of a lines module is great!!! but lets say i wanted the button to turn on when the knob was at full on, then i would need a "pass if change" but where from to the button? (the vst cutoff output?) so for your 2nd exa...

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yeah, that happens to the best of us...... :) so perhaps someone can help me get my head around this. so i would have modules of presets (or scenes) for fader1 and then it would be a matter of routing which "pass if has change" the fader is reacting to right? so if in scene1 fader1 was vol at 67 and...

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just tried setting up a little demo like the how to had it setup and it works great. thanks so much guys. got to check a couple other things but i think i might be getting usine!!!

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thanks, yes that appears to be what i'm looking for and it seems kinda easy even.

i'll have to try it out when i get a second.

ok time to learn more about this "Pass if has change."

i hope that this pass if has change can be used along with scenes to give me my "mechanical" touchscreen faders.

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thank you for the fast reply. to answer your last question first, i should have wrote bomes 1.7 midi translator. it can make translations in both midi in and midi out that you can define with rules and timers etc. very awesome program. i'm sorry I'm afraid I wasn't clear enough in the first post and...

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Hi, second post here. found this program looking for ways to use touchscreens in DJ setups as i got a tabletPC running XP a while ago and would like to use it as part of my controller setup. I have tried your program and have made some faders etc. slowly starting to get a feel for how usine works bu...

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i'm using a gateway tabletpc firewire for running my presonus firebox and i don't have problems, but you never know and might end up having to get an expresscard/pcmcia card if you take the chance.

first post, trying to learn more about this program....

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