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martignasse

seems like you dont provide the GetBrowserInfo globale function implementation something like this in your module cpp file // module constants for browser info and module info const AnsiCharPtr UserModuleBase::MODULE_NAME = "DelayArr"; const AnsiCharPtr UserModuleBase::MODULE_DESC = "Delay Array"; c...

martignasse

hey oli,

maybe i can help with this, but i need to see your source code for that

martignasse

Hi sm_jamieson and 23fx23,

new SDK release 6.05.001 posted with the multi touch fix.

sorry for the delay
enjoy

martignasse

[large]Sensomusic SDK 6.05.001[/large] Correction of multi-touch callbacks and addition of a function to get the Usine version type fixed - corrected all onMouseXXXMulti callbacks in UserModule improvements - sdkGetUsineVersionType() and TUsineVersionType enum to get the flavor of the usine distrib ...

martignasse

Je viendrais avec grand plaisir pour découvrir tout ça .

martignasse

Little bump cause im still failing :* Martignaaaaaassse?,,^^ hey 23fx23, two new functions will be added in the next sdk version (no precise date for now) /// set the name of the module (as it appear in the patch, on the module title) void sdkSetModuleUserName(AnsiCharPtr name); ///...

martignasse

oli_lab wrote:Hi,
what software should I use to compile SDK module in OSX ?

thanx

xcode, which should be freely downloadable from the apple store.

ideally, xcode v3.2.6 on osx 10.6 to be compatible with osx 10.6

xcode, starting from osx 10.7 to 10.10 cant compile for 10.6 because of coreaudio change in osx

martignasse

Bonjour mack, petite précision: actuellement, usine ne supporte officiellement que deux device, l'ENTTEC OPENDMX USB et l'ENTTEC DMXUSB PRO. un prochain update ajoutera la prise en charge du ENTTEC DMX USB PRO MK2 dans les fait, toutes ces device utilise un driver USB de chez FTDI et d'autre device ...

martignasse

hi oli_lab,

you can found an implementation example in the onProcess of the matrix audio sources

MatrixAudio.cpp, line 765

martignasse

oups, i missed this one

maybe you need this

sdkSendUsineMsg (AnsiCharPtr Msg)

it's the only function concerning IML in the SDK

Hope it help

martignasse

ok, so here is the behavior of usine to locate a module: 1°) search in the usine distrib folder (and subfolder) 2°) search in the personal library folder 3°) search at the same level of the patch/workspace file (useful in case of exported workspace) if more than one file in one of those stage, the f...

martignasse

[large]Sensomusic SDK 6.04.003 update and SDK user's manual[/large] The SDK distrib now include a user's manual (also available in the download section of the site). This manual explain the SDK architecture and the modules examples. See modules examples sources to see how to implement the new GetBro...

martignasse

Hi, I have a folder on my computer to store my own user modules, in C:hollyhock/persolivar/usermodule so, you access this personal folder by the library tab, not the module tab ? what will happen if the same module is present in that folder as well as in the usine's addons folder ? wich one will lo...

martignasse

try with float before all, but it really depends of the purpose, until your computation need long because of intermediate approximation and precision limit of the float format. but you'll know that only by trying with float before ;) if it's 'only' to visually rotate a bunch of vectors, i don't see ...

martignasse

hey oli_lab, from the code you posted, you appli the soft clipping formula only to the first sample of each output sample block. //y = x / (1 + | x | ) softclipping formula tempValue = sdkGetEvtData(audioOutputs ) / (1 + abs(sdkGetEvtData(audioOutputs ))); sdkSetEvtData(audioOutputs , tempValue ); r...

martignasse

mmm,

i think you should call PXY.reserve(32); before allocating your iterator vector<TPointF>::iterator IT = PXY.begin();
because reserve invalidate the iterator.

see here, Iterator validity section near the bottom of the page

martignasse

Hi julien_ yesterday my enttec open usb dmx was recognized by usine and today no more... rescan device button should make it appear, is the enttec device plugged in the same usb port than yesterday ? Just Assign a DMX channel to the par created in the light universe in Usine, and program the physica...

martignasse

cool, i want to see that

martignasse

you can check the GranulatorModule.cpp, it do exactly that

try to avoid global static variable, as they can collide if you have more that one module instance. Prefer class member variable

martignasse

wow, look very interesting,
but absolutely no time to check

martignasse

The onPaint procedure is driven at usine level, in the sdk we just can tell to usine we want a repaint with sdkRepaintPanel Usine call onPaint for it own need too. Usine make internal optimization of messages and some repaint can be amalgamated into one onPaint call. You have to provide all the cont...

martignasse

hey guys lots of great ideas and contributions, like it We (the sensomusic team) were thinking about something similar in addition to the SDK repository, a kind of community repository for user module developer About the "official aspect", We see it more in the sens of offering to the community an u...

martignasse

cool :) i have to test it Nb: couldn't figure how to force initial size of module, so for best results size should be set to 400 to 400. in onGetModuleInfo you can set pModuleInfo->DefaultWidth and pModuleInfo->DefaultHeight , is that what you are looking for ? (i saw that they don't appear in the A...

martignasse

yep, mistake from my part, memcpy last parameter is the size in byte, and you are copying some float, so...

martignasse

if your value is between 0 ->1, use the math module 1 - X
you get the idea, adapt for the range you use

or i completely misunderstood your question

martignasse

mmmm, lots of confusions here i'll try to clarify first of all, if you do this code in the onProcess , you are massively leaking memory because of this BLOC_SMP_BUFFER = new float[BlocSize]; it mean you allocate a new array every audio tick ! ! plus the fact that you should avoid completly allocatin...

martignasse

cool,

on the optimization point, note that sdkDrawPathXX are more efficient than sdkDrawPolyLine

now, you just have to integrate the Automation Recording to make easy real-time automation of your bezier param

take a look at the granulator module to see how it work

martignasse

hi temas,

you can use multiple pianoroll to record multiple midi input simultaneously

if you have more specific needs, you can do lots more by hand at patch level by storing/manipulating midi events, but it's more complex and use case specific

hope it help

martignasse

hey oli, we don't have timer callback exposed in the sdk for now, but you can do it pretty easily. in the onProcess you check the time with sdkGetTimeMs() , when it pass the period of your framerate goal , you send a callback notification to usine. using sdkNotifyUsine (int Target, int Msg, int Para...

martignasse

wow 23fx23, it's a kind of sexy canvas you have here :D seems like you resolved your problem i'm not aware of a limit for drawing things, what functions are you using. anyway, this kind of stuff have to be optimized as it can be really CPU/GPU demanding as the canvas coord is between 0 and 1, you do...

martignasse

Good point -- it would be nice to have clearer error messages in the trace log :(. hehe, of course, but we are in C++ and in the process function, which is The real time function. On the Usine side, the Process function is optimized in a way to minimize logs has printing string/char has a big cost ...

martignasse

I know this is from relatively back-in-the-day but I just ran into the same compiler fail. Y'all probably will kick yourselves. AinsiCharPtr ^ AnsiCharPtr 6.2 is superb. hi Blaakk, Yep, i made some refactoring with this version. It's mentioned in the 'Release notes' which should be consulted carefu...

martignasse

hey 23fx23, welcome back :) sorry for the lag, i was in vacation what i can suggest you it to begin by simple module with the sdk. and gradually experiment with feature you are interested in. in parallel, you can work on your mega super complex awesome algo in a separate exe and 'prepair' it for the...

martignasse

I noticed that there is an .xconfig file missing though: Usine_CPP_SDKProj.xcconfig You are right about the missing xcconfig file, it seems like i over simplified things to make it easier for beginners... That said, it has no effect on the project itself. I'll clean this up for the next release Tha...

martignasse

...The experience was much smoother than my last attempts with the SDK... great :D we worked hard to make it more affordable, especially trying to avoid starting from scratch for people who are not c++ coder. sure, it's more complex than scripting and always will be, but possibility are limitless a...

martignasse

thanks for the feedback i'll check for the missing .xconfig file, but i don't think it's the source of your problem i suppose you started from an example project that you duplicated xcode compile your module and place it in the bin folder of the sdk distrib. you are on the good track with the execut...

martignasse

hi ahs, all VST params are values between 0.0 and 1.0, it's a specification of the VST format. inside the VST, those values are mapped to something to show in the VSTUI (like dB, percentage...) unfortunately, we cant access to those infos from outside of the plugin. note that it's a limitation of th...

martignasse

the main difference between length to 0 or -1 for a outlet parameter : - length = 0 : the param contain nothing - length = -1 : the param contain nothing, but the connection act as unplugged it's a subtle difference witch have crucial importance. look at the value in a connection after a 'pass if ch...

martignasse

Seamus was using an interesting tool called jbridge, which I believe is a VST update tool that converts them to x64 compatible... Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue with at the moment, and I think he has a ticket in for it. There was another forum post about, you could probably ask him more ...

martignasse

salut gercha1, cool, je note ces précieuses infos, on va composer avec les besoins/contraintes de chacun ;) de quel coté de Lyon est tu ? Roanne, Bourg en Bresse, ou le sud ? Perso, j'aime bien la campagne, je bosse régulièrement du coté de Roanne... Merci pour ta proposition d'accueil, je ne sais p...

martignasse

Bonjour Lolasound, Cela avance doucement... Nous faisons le tour des lieux possible pour se rencontrer et partager, si tu as des pistes... Nous collectons les adresses des personnes potentiellement intéressées, te voila ajouté :) Je ne crois pas que l'on se soit déjà croisé ? Est tu de la région ? o...

martignasse

hey oli, i plan to communicate around the SDK update and HH2, i'll do a mailing to User's modules authors to inform them. to everyone : feel free to mail me with info about a module and his author, i'll add it to the mailing. beyond that, User's module are under the responsibility of their authors, ...

martignasse

ben voila

y a plus qu'à

martignasse

thank you, that's encouraging I was thinking of using the coordinates and angular datas of the 2 pendulae as modulation sources for spatialisation and/or FX... yep, seems like it makes sense, but what does it mean in term of module params inputs/outputs ;) it's the big job (other than putting an al...

martignasse

hey oli_lab, after a quick look at the sources, the first one rely on 3 file for the algorythm, the rest is for QT integration. it should be pretty easy to isolate the algo part, the 'big' work is to reconstruct the graphic part and how you sync that with the audio... But you should be pretty comfor...

martignasse

hi GDLive and sephult, You are on the right track :) I'll take time to explain this has i'am actually documenting it in the upcoming SDK user's manual ;) and because it's very important to understand it. It's one of the key point of the Usine engine. I can explain the logic behind this, i'll try to ...

martignasse

Salut rosselle, Pour la wii, il n'y a pas besoin de drivers, le bluetooth est géré au niveau d'osx. Je crois me souvenir que osx peut bloquer le driver, il est alors nécessaire de refaire la procédure d'appairage. Je vais faire un essai...dès que ma wii sera rechargé ;) Pour ton soucis de chauffe, n...

martignasse

Oui c'est exactement ça, ducoup ya le soucis de mémorisation qui se pose, et de priorité lorsque la case est cochée ou non ... je ne sais pas du tout comment faire ça! merci de ton aide en tout cas :D bon, après avoir réfléchi à ton soucis et passé en revue les fonctionnalités de la "matrix data". ...

martignasse

GDLive wrote:Yes, waiting for the new open source SDK too !! (sourceforge empty)

yep, it's coming too, i'm finalizing it

with some new simple examples to show the sdk features

martignasse

oups, j'ai mal vu, c'est bien une matrix data que tu utilise

donc ce que je voulait dire, c'est, peux être en couplant deux matrices dont une 'matrix display & set'

je vais y reflechir

martignasse

merci nay, Batkam, si je comprend bien, en fait, tu voudrais mémoriser la dernière valeur de sortie si aucune entré n'est sélectionné ? par rapport à tes screenshots, par exemple, si je décoche la case Y->fx1, fx1 se retrouve avec plus rien de sélectionné en entré et devrait gardé la dernière valeur...

martignasse

les screenshots ne pas pas, je ne les vois pas

je ne vois donc pas se qu'il y a après la matrice et ce que tu entends par 'la dernière valeurs enregistrés'

martignasse

Hello BatKam,

- que veux tu dire pas 'désactivation d'une connexion' ?

une capture d'écran et plus de précisions sur se que tu cherche à faire nous permettrais de mieux t'aider

martignasse

salut a tous,

je serais présent le 23

martignasse

go go oli

oui, moi j'en suis et je soutient ton initiative a 100%

je ne suis malheureusement pas très présent sur le forum, mais partagerais avec plaisir mon savoir de développeur d'usine

je pense qu'un groupe d'usiners actif autour de Lyon a vraiment un gros potentiel

martignasse

pour infos,

Je participe à ces rencontres, où Hollyhock suscite beaucoup d’Intérêts et de curiosité

n’hésitez pas à venir, c'est un endroit privilégié pour partagé autour d'usine et de l'electro-acoustique en général.

martin

martignasse

hey olivar,

the OSC system isn't exposed in the SDK at all
and i think it's not a good solution to try to go this way

if multitag is the "ultimate/last" functionality missing about OSC, a "feature request" is the way to go ?

martin

martignasse

Yes Martgnasse. Thank you for your fast answer. It works. I had seen these very usefull functions, but I really don't know how to populate the window (is there a way to catch a handle for it) ? So I went back to my old school CreateDialog function. So how can I put my components (I use a datagrid E...

martignasse

hi, LevraiBernardo happy to see you around the sdk again :) strange that sdkGetUsineMainWindow() don't work for you, i use it in the pluginwrapper with no problem (PluginWrapper.cpp, line 1482) anyway, you shouldn't rely on CreateDialog as it is WIN only, you know, multi-plateform stuff... there is ...

martignasse

sorry for not responding... too busy on usine dev

i'll try to compil today and let you know

martignasse

I also noticed that the output parameters are not set to 0 when I inspect the module before wiring anything into it. It should come with the minimum value set, no? well, i dont know why, but it seems evident that your params event aren't initialised. I will also try upgrading my OS and Xcode, if yo...

martignasse

mmm, i cant see other obvious problems

if you can put the include file on gist too, i'll can try to compile and hopefully find something

so you'r on mac, with the last SDK distrib exact ?

martignasse

Ah, I was thinking that the way I was debugging was way too painful! Glad to know that there is a better way to do it.. to dynamic debug your module, you have to edit the project scheme, in the "Run" section, choose the debug build + set the executable to the Usine.app. this way, when you hit "run"...

martignasse

wow, tout un programme ! excellente initiative

je pense venir ce mardi, ça me parait très intéressant.

martignasse

hi ceasless, congrats for your first module :) But now I realized it was being copied into the 'Devices' folder! did you start from an existing project and modified it, like one of the device modules ? Is it possible to use things like std::vector and other STL things with the SDK? yes, of course. y...

martignasse

congrats to your Hollyhock migration

a massive and beautiful UI you have here,
a good stress test for the UI engine too

martignasse

did you try tweaking the various parameters of jbridge ?

i remember, some plug don't work well "as is' but with parameters adjustment, it's ok

if it don't do the trick, feel free to open a bug ticket, with precise info about your setup and the concerned plugs

hope it help

martignasse

it's engine events internal

but one way or another, the engine end up by calling param callback multiple time, one for each param who need it, one after one

martignasse

hi ceasless, you are speaking about script right ? just to be sure ;) if so, each time the callback function is called, it end up in only one case block and this block is guaranteed to be executed plainly before another callback call thus, you can use only one counter variable for the callback funct...

martignasse

In the process I came across a better example of the issue though, and am still not clear whether it falls under what you've described: With a GUI plugin, the settings panel tracks values perfectly when adjusted in the GUI, but not when adjusted by a fader (though like I said, the internal values a...

martignasse

Just to confirm though - there's no way to "read" or "extract" a parameter's display values directly from the plugin itself? well, like i said above, it's what we do in the setting panel... if the plug provide some, and there is no guaranties at all the choice made was to not expose it, -because we...

martignasse

Usine does indeed seem to know what the internal vst units are---right? maybe it seems but in fact, no :| what you see in the settings for the params values is just a text string provided or not by the plugin there is no rules about what the string should/must contain, so no guaranties off anything...

martignasse

Hi guys, I was wondering if there had been any progress with this development? I'm willing to help in any way I can. yes, progress and good result :P the base is here, it's not a problem to collect leap data's the real challenge is to make it usable and useful, i'm working hard to make this module ...

martignasse

we hear your need, woodslanding, i can assure you :) but for now, consider 'going the old way' the best way to go :| as you have your requirements, we also have ours... multi-plateform :o and it's not easy to find a generic way to interact with plugins presets/programs at module level to let you kno...

martignasse

[large]Usine Hollyhock SDK 1.02.011[/large] Existing user modules don't need to be recompiled Can be downloaded in the download area. improvements - added 'sdkAudioQueryToNbChannels', 'sdkGetAudioChannelNamesAinsi' and 'MasterInfo::AudioModulesQueryList' to help when the query system is used for aud...

martignasse

yep, corrected in v11,
*Plug-ins effects (not identified as instruments) wasn’t receiving midi events

hesspet wrote:Is there a chance to get an info when this bugfix release is available. I also stuck with this problem. tongue

the best way to be informed promptly is to fill a bug report

martignasse

@drakh
no problem, i'll start something and let you know on this thread

@hesspet
yep, i'm interested
i have no time and i don't understand germain, but i'm curious about it

martignasse

cool, merci pour le feedback GDLive

gercha1 ? des nouvelles ?

martignasse

hi drakh,

i recevied my leapmotion

i'll have time next week to work on leapmotion for usine

what about the state of your experiment ?
did you update the git repository with some compilable source ?

i'm impatient to plug it in hollyhock

martignasse

salut, content de voir qu'il marche avec ce genre de device :) pendant le développement, je l'ai essentiellement testé avec des joystick et n'ai pas constaté de latence notable. je présume que cette latence est en comparaison de Usine 5.8 ? au niveau de la 'légère latence', peu tu être plus explicit...

martignasse

hehe, it's what i call perfect synchro

has we plan to include an official arduino module in the usine distrib, i'll can help

martignasse

hi hesspet, i just come back from holidays and i see you are quit active in the sdk area :cool: With the outcomming of Hollyhock there's a need to share the sources, not only the binaries! Most of us have only access to a win or a mac. But plugins should be usable on both worlds, so users of the "op...

martignasse

so i started initial developing. it is avialable here: https://github.com/drakh/LeapMotion cool, i haven't yet my leapmotion to test it, but i'll do for sure after my holidays :) following the git link, i saw that sources file of the module is missing, is it intentional or just an oversight? and fr...

martignasse

well, basically, copy/paste is automatically handled for inlets for the rest (some internal state or variable you want to preserve) it rely on getChunk and setChunk functions. you can look in the matrix - display or set to see an example of how the cell tab are stored in getchunck and restored in se...

martignasse

wow, lots off interest for the leap motion :cool: we were thinking about making an official leap motion module (mean, included in the hollyhock distrib) but it's not our top priority for now as i see at least three people about to make one, it could be a good opportunity to make some collaborative w...

martignasse

Okay I tested and saw the expected results using a constant. Left me curious about constants though...I set constant to 12.85 and in the parameters it automatically sets = 12.8500003814697 This leaves me curious. Yeah, that is something rather irritating in Usine - float values change, even if very...

martignasse

m_textNew = sdkGetEvtPChar(m_textInput); // str.push_back((char) m_textNew); sdkSetEvtPChar(m_textOutput, (AinsiCharPtr) (str.c_str())); //sdkSetEvtPChar(m_textOutput, m_textNew); m_textNew is a char pointer, and you add it to str as a...

martignasse

However, it seems a bit strange as long as I build the string locally and immediately assign the value to the Caption member. One would think that the value is stored in Caption together with all the other data, and that the (temporary) string variable no longer is of interest. but the variable sto...

martignasse

I'm trying to make a user module that will put a new appearing character at the end of a existing string I too have a similar problem, but I was trying to use a std::string variable as a parameter caption. I tried different approaches, and ended up with casting similar to examples in the SDK: (Ains...

martignasse

Congratulations

welcome in the SDK world
but be careful, if you love it, you'll see the "tentacular" side of it

martignasse

I was thinking of separating out the stuff I guess is only of use for the special kinds of ModuleTypes like mtDeviceAudio and mtPluginLister, but maybe I've misunderstood what parts of the SDK can be used where and when. ok, i see what you mean, but it's not really applicable (nightmare to maintain...

martignasse

is it possible to build a user module compatible with usine 5.8 from the code made with SDK 1.01 ? no, the new SDK isn't compatible with 5.8 if you want to make a user module for each usine version, you have to maintain two codebase (one for each SDK) the right way should be to make the 5.8 module ...

martignasse

BTW, while we're on the subject of simplifying things, I think it would be a good idea to split the header files up, moving all the stuff concerning device drivers and plugsins to separate files. can you elaborate please. i can't figure it i vaguely see about separating the basic stuff from the ver...

martignasse

yes, good idea, i know we have to make the transition from script as easy as possible but the purpose of the template module is actually to prepare all these methods for the user. so, maybe the solution is a hello world module, with the minimum to make a functional module able to replace a script mo...

martignasse

cool, one important thing when trying to survive with all this c++ crap : remember than apart from the language syntax and all the glue code, the sdk structure is very similar to what you do in an usine script the 'essential' stuff moduleInfos : description and infos about the module content and beh...

martignasse

oups, seems like i forgot to update a function in the template module project :| in TemplateModule.cpp file, line 59, the CreateModule function miss a parameter at the end : void CreateModule (void* &pModule, AinsiCharPtr optionalString, LongBool Flag, MasterInfo* pMasterInfo) should be void...

martignasse

[large]Usine Hollyhock SDK 1.01.001[/large]
Major release.
Can be downloaded in the download area.

Lots of modifications in the modules distrib
Existing user modules don't need to be recompiled

improvements
- added optionalContent string parameter to CreateModule function

martignasse

bsork wrote:Hi, I've finally finished (I hope) my first MIDI user module.

how can i missed that !
well i know... to much work

congrats to our first user module for Hollyhock

i'll try to review your code 'when i'll have time' and provide some advice on the way to do things

martignasse

oli_lab wrote:do you mean default-Setting.ini ?

yep, default-Setting.ini

martignasse

cool

let me know about your feeling in the updating process

and i'll test your beta modules, for sure

PS : you can continue the conversion with the 233 sdk, the 234 addition isn't needed for your case, you'll just have to recompile with it at the end

martignasse

finally, i had time this WE to test the module (i didn't tested firmata) seems to work well when the COM number is configured :cool: but a bad COM setting (like when you load a someone else patch) cause a lot of instability (crash usine or corrupt the patch) the error handling should be more robust ...

martignasse

watching the video....

congrats, well done

martignasse

I'm thinking about making 2 different modules. One with the immediate mode and one with the asynchrounous mode. This "high performance" sending of serial information is not needed for every day usages of an Arduino. But for applications like a LED VU meter, or a beat to "whatever" transmission the ...

martignasse

great, can't wait to test your module my arduino is hot and ready :cool: technically speaking, having three callback mode is one of the killer feature of usine, it make possible the high level of modularity with all the different kind of data we have to deal with inside a module. ctNormal : Usine in...

martignasse

hi hesspet, cool to see you already have some result :) so, i'll try to understand how your module work : - you have some async code (working thread ?) to write to the serial line. - when data change on the inlet 'data out', the callback copy those data (with m_p_SerialBasics->do_write(strDataOut)) ...

martignasse

cool,

lots of reading and some precious feedback

and don't hesitate if you need some help or explanation

keep up the good work

martignasse

ok, cool

so good work, can't wait to see the result

and i'm interested in the way you use the boost lib, if you don't care

martignasse

hi hesspet, i saw that you are working on a serial module communication, cool and sorry for the delayed response first of all, i tried to reproduce the problem with a test module, but it's working fine on my side can you put a break point in the callback and inspect what you have from the GetEvtPCha...

martignasse

interesting... i have to say i know nearly nothing about the make and makefile stuff... i'm an IDE man apart the fact that it would be better to focus on cmake and cmakefile, who are not platform or ide dependent (remember usine will be on mac too, in the futur) but maybe it's even more complex... i...

martignasse

Hi naarud ...as it's an exercise to learn about c++ and sdk, let me know if it works or not. (last thing, it was compiled with mingw, i think all libs were statically linked, but maybe not...) module: CueExtractor wow, for an exercise, you choose the hard way ;) but with great success i'm interested...

martignasse

don't know about the v2.0, i'm focused on the v1.0 and the final user has the looked-in syndrom head movement is the first calibration killer the construction can be a part of the problem too (jaws movements can move the glass) but even if you minimise/resolve these problems, the soft calibration is...

martignasse

hello all, for infos, apart from my usine work, i'm on a project where we are building an eye tracker prototype derived from the eye writer 1.0 (mounted on glass, not the 2.0 mounted on the pc) well, the 1.0 is really cheap to construct but you'll need some good manual aptitudes the biggest limitati...

martignasse

yep, i saw that

(link in french

)
http://www.pcinpact.com/news/71057-leap-motion-detection-mouvements-doigts.htm

seems very very interesting

martignasse

hi tanabarbier,

for infos, here i have the "under control" version of the wiimote,

work like a charm with usine, and with the Nunchunk too

martignasse

yes, I said too much... ;) very busy this time... ...I'll try to advance on those two points very soon well, i have just no time too, but it's just because I have to turn [large]6[/large] time my neurons in my brain... :D what is needed for anyone to try to build a com port module in Usine? I'm jus...

martignasse

Arduino like other pic embedded with usb com port could generate midi messages (which are serial messages). If you use a specific com port driver which allows you to set the correct bitrate, you just have to use virtual midi port to receive it... And if you have midi messages, you could use uSine.....

martignasse

2-Com port (rs232) could be a crazy good idea because arduino can do this almost directly. But certainly Usine doesn't have a Com module (and I don't know how it could be built?). So I need a usb to COM converter and do this through USB, luckily there's a lot of that cheap interfaces out there (but...

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i experimented with arduino, but not with usine (for and R&D about egr valve) arduino itself is cool to code as it's c++ (like the SDK :)), but actually, there is no easy way to connect it to usine ideally, a simple serial COM user module could permit to exchange raw data with the arduino, but there...

martignasse

well, for a 4*4 you can achieve that by module but mixing that with the exclu patch is tricky, because your click infos aren't flipped... here is a try : http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/uploads.php?file=flipped_exclu_matrix.png but the exclu is valid only by clicking on the left matrix, and the rig...

martignasse

hi artificial,

unfortunatly, there is no easy way to achieve that...
script is your friend for this type of task.

is it only the graphical representation you want flipped or the array data too ?

[edit] the swap array module turn it from 180 deg, making the 'new' 0 index in down right cell

martignasse

23fx23 wrote:i noticed a small thing: the reset value doesn't seem effective. here i can enter 1 or 0, nothing will change when pressing reset.

yop, good catch

it's a regression bug :rolleyes:
will be fixed in the next release

thanks

martignasse

hi,

keep the shift key pressed while you drag and you are in the high precision mode with mouse

and you can tweak the precision factor value in the layout panel

hope it help

martignasse

yep, nous savons bien que plusieurs (beaucoup ?) d'utilisateurs attende un module arduino depuis longtemps... le branchement de base USB/serial n'est pas un problème, j'ai déjà du code c++ pour cela, prêt à être intégré dans un module... c'est plutôt après que ça se complique, que fait on de ces byt...

martignasse

... quel serait l'avantage d'un module "Usine" pour Arduino ?... si un module voie le jours, ce sera a priori en communication directe par le flux serie (jusqu'a 115200 Bd). ça ne dispense pas d'une programmation cotée arduino et ça ajoute même une étape de traitement coté usine (pour mettre en œuv...

martignasse

merci à tous pour ces retours, c'est noté

par contre, il va falloir rameuter du monde, car il faudrait au moins 5/6 participants (jusqu’à 10 pour réduire les couts)

donc faite circuler l'info, répandez la bonne parole

martignasse

ok, c'est noté aussi

martignasse

cool, merci pour ces infos,

pour le moment, je dit cet automne mais ça peu glisser au début 2012, en fait, c'est le lieu et le nombre de participants qui va être décisif.

qu'entend tu précisément par outils d'analyse ?

martignasse

wow, y a donc quelques usiners du coté de lyon, moi, perso j'habite a vaise (69009)

rien de sur, mais on va essayer de caler un workshop à lyon pour cette automne

rendez-vous sur ce topic pour plus d'infos

martignasse

il semblerait qu'il y ai quelques usiners du coté de la capitale des gaules

ça vous dirait un workshop sur Lyon cette automne ?
il faudrait au moins 6 personnes pour que se soit jouable...

- qui serait partant ?
- quel sont vos besoins concernant usine ?

martignasse

hi protofuse, is a post build error, it's set in the project properties->build events-> post build event the line xcopy /e /i /y "$(OutDir)$(ProjectName).usr" "C:Program FilesUsine Pro StandAlone 5.50ModulesAudio" copy the fresh module to your usine install you surely have to delete ...

martignasse

hello,

actually, 'shift-delete' do the job, without polluting the clipboard.

i believe the fact you need two keys combo is a security for live situation.

martignasse

sorry, can't remember the audio source, too much test

only one granulator but two resonator.

cpu is very light, about 0.3% the module alone, here on my CoreDuo 6400.

martignasse

hehe, it's informative to look at the wiki

pretty effective solution in fact

here some test :

a raw output of the module with the 1kHz tone as input

a more obscure test with a resonator after the granulator

grain synthesis is a very very huge deep world !

martignasse

ok, thanks

so i'll see that with him, hope i'll can achieve that

martignasse

hi again joffo78,

what do you mean by

Senso did it in the next version with xy pad

?

is this behaviour (fade time on the XYpad) exist in the 5.50.58 or is it for the next version ?

martignasse

hello joffo78,

i cant answer for now, i have things to check before.

i'll feedback soon.

martignasse

pfffff, bad news

his soul rest in peace

martignasse

En effet c'est bien ce qu'il me semblait. Du coup si je veux gérer 120 circuits dmx il me faudra 120 instances du module ! ma matrix de sortie contient 120 cellules. elle est configurée en mode fade. J'ai rajouté un multiplicateur *256 pour les valeurs dmx. c'est clair que ca va être fastidieux...f...

martignasse

ha ben ça avance, cool A priori le module de gère qu'un canal à la fois Effectivement, un module = un canal. Par contre tu peux avoir plusieurs instances du module pour gérer plusieurs canaux DMX. D'après ce que j'ai compris de ton patch, une cellule de la matrix correspond à un canal DMX, non ? Cro...

martignasse

hello zoukoupomme, bienvenu sur le forum 'officiel' d'usine :) (un habitué du forum audiofanzine, d'après ce que je sais) concernant ta question, je crois qu'il y a déjà eu pas mal de recherches/essais sur la communication avec molar, notamment ce thread, ici (et oui, c'est en anglais :() il y a aus...

martignasse

ok, resalut joffo78, bon, j'ai jeté un premier coup d'œil vite fait (pas trop le temps là), ca a l'air ambitieux comme projet, mais bon, t'as déjà une bonne base :cool: première série, pour aller à l'essentiel : 1°) Not enough actual parameters Line 30 : SL1.Strings := 'cell_nb:' + IntToStr + 'val:'...

martignasse

23fx23 wrote:any news on the perf/ multitouch update ?

well, it's coming....slowly as i'm busy with other things too. but it's coming

martignasse

nay-seven wrote:i know for the shift function, but on a touch screen .....hmm

senso wrote:why can't you create a layout value? Then could be adjustable by the user?

yep, simple like that

it's on my todo list now

martignasse

yep, no problem, make a matrix thread in the french section, i'll answer with pleasure

martignasse

_is there a way to add precision to the array values( here the last array to dispatch values can't reflect the precision chosen in the options) well, absolutely not possible. precision(nb of decimal digit) in usine is only a graphic thing. behind, values are always plain float. the matrix and the a...

martignasse

oups, long time ago : I don't know if it's script or matrix module related, but the exclu mode is not compatible with a preset manager martignasse.... yep, i know, the problem is at script level. as it is based on the last clicked cell, it's not working very well with the data provided by the preset...

martignasse

it would be fantastic if we could take an individual value on each cell by numeric value (for example cell n°25 at 0.5) you mean extracting a value or setting it by index? anyway, it's a job for 'get array element value' and 'set array element value' modules. or maybe i misunderstood what you mean....

martignasse

cool, now you can begin the hard work

My problem of osc is solved

just to know, and to help other.
what was the problem and how you solved it ?

PS : for your questions about the matrix, i transfered them in the appropriate thread, here

martignasse

Transfered from another thread : ...i had a lot of suggestions for your amazing matrix module ! it would be fantastic if we could take an individual value on each cell by numeric value (for example cell n°25 at 0.5) it would be great to if you could display each number of cell then a value correspon...

martignasse

joffo78 wrote:usine display "error:Send failed: socket permission denied"

seems like the firewall is blocking the socket creation.
check if the port used by usine for OSC is in the exception list of the firewall, create it if needed

hop it help

martignasse

hi gthibert; i'm mot sure to understand, The advantages would be to be able to add VSTs live, on the fly, change the order of the plugins and bypass them. seems similar to the rack mode off the grid. I believe all of this is already possible in usine, by patching or maybe IML. I hope my idea is clea...

martignasse

confirmed

in fact, all these functions :

Code: Select all

GetUsineSoudPath&#40;&#41;
GetUsinePatchPath&#40;&#41;
GetUsineVst1Path&#40;&#41;
GetUsineVst2Path&#40;&#41;
GetUsineRecordPath&#40;&#41;

return bad/corrupted data

i'll have to see that with senso

martignasse

Hi caco,

i'll check that today and report.

thanks for the feedback

martignasse

wow caco,

i like a lot what you give us to ear

more teasing please

martignasse

Welcome Captain,

I dont know how I didn't find it before!!!

hehe, Usine come in your life when you are ready lol.
But be careful, after that happen, you'll fall in

martignasse

hello thomas, are you saying that the mp3 is the result of your first module ? :cool: then, big congrats, it's very interesting, not so weird but very tricky, i like it a lot :) It took me a while to fiddle out that I have to set the event size before I can write to the audio output (I'm not sure wh...

martignasse

hello Thomas, really good start :cool: But the one thing I didn't understand was how to use the m_masterInfo->pTimeInfo. I didn't use it a lot myself, but 'pTimeInfo' is just similar to the Steinberg VST SDK 'VstTimeInfo' structure, so, googling it can give you some precious infos and use case. And ...

martignasse

Happy new year to all of you...

martignasse

Hi thomas, Welcome to Usine, i which you an happy new year with the SDK :) wow, your 3d shaders are high quality, we'll be honoured to see them in Usine ! You are completely right about the lake of example for the SDK :| this is growing slowly ;) now about your questions : 1°)random data output The ...

martignasse

ha, good news :) at least, it seems to be a 'real' computer, not just an internet tablet... but same range of hardware for a tablet PC with a bi-touch screen ( Toshiba Portégé M780-102 ) can be found at 950/1000 € here in France ok, only one 12.1 inch screen and an i-core i5-520M(2.40 / 2.93 Turbo G...

martignasse

yep, there is a known problem about stored preset and size change

i'll work on it for the next release

martignasse

hi ethnix73, arf, it's a pretty tricky script you try to custom here :rolleyes: (the hard way to learn script...23fx23 is kind of unique about learning curve;) ) anyway, if i remember correctly, we speak about the 'arr to midi' script of the 'matrix_fall_seq_example' the note length is just a matter...

martignasse

...sorry for response delay... i'm quite busy on other things for now (3D online stuff

)

like i said, it's on the way... but no release date for now...

about 2011, first quarter, something like that.

can't be more accurate

martignasse

there is definitely some problems with how the module store and reload datas, especially when the size change. it affect presets and conductor, but also what is saved in patch and workspace. anyway, it was already on my todo list because actually, it's pretty heavy on memory. thanks again for the fe...

martignasse

i just can say... WOooOW

like the soundtrack too

martignasse

Let me begin by saying that the matrix module is IMO one of the best additions to usine. But, I dont know if this has been mentioned but the matrix does not store its values in the conductor. Am i missing something? thanks. oops, missed this one :| sorry can you confirm and send me a .wkp reproduci...

martignasse

1) In fader mode,would it be possible to use the mouse wheel to scroll the values like usines fader module? good one, it put it on my todo list :) 2) In its current state when you have a populated matrix in draw mode and drag the mouse to draw in values, the cells that are on turn off and the cells...

martignasse

@soundmind:
yep, it's the power of scripting vs patching, make things really modular and expandable

@nay-seven:
haha, can't imagine what you'll do with this script

@23fx23:
...when i'm not to short in time...

martignasse

hehe,

here it is

not fully tested, but work well for what you need.

martignasse

hi soundmind, Thanks for the interest, Here is the wkp. My main concern is the amount of patches needed to accomplish this when it works perfectly fine when concating vertically. Unfortunatly, datas are stored by row in the matrix array, resulting in more operation complex when manipulating row leng...

martignasse

hi manecante, what i can say : presets for PM and conductor are stored in wkp or patch files, and can be really heavy. of course, when wkp or patch are loaded, those data are stored in memory... reducing the amount available. what i don't know (you should ask senso) is if all preset are stored in me...

martignasse

Hi poof,

I used this module and can say that even in beta stage, it work perfectly with the Enttec Pro device.

I know that 'LeVraiBernardo' is a very busy man, but surely respond if you contact him

martignasse

@ martignasse: here are my two little requests: A) index updates like draw mode in edit mode (no worries if too complex) B) redraw colors when changing size, more often annoying in my cases as i got to fill lots of arrays to compensate and feel it has a certain impact on cpu when intensive use. her...

martignasse

[large]SDK 5.25[/large] This update enhance the UI part off the SDK. A good example of what can be made with these new features is the matrix module (from the Matrix Pack 1.2). [large]improvements[/large] - added 'IsSeparator' and 'IsInvisible' to ParamInfo - added 'DisplayOrder' to ParamInfo to man...

martignasse

hmmm. okay. I guess I don't understand the danger..... For me, I can't understand why master out sections are not always saved with all wkps to begin with. Why would you not want this to happen? the way i understand it : master section is more about what you have in (micro, preamp, intru...) an out...

martignasse

wow, i'm curious about how many script you made to implement all these features, lots of thing to extract in a generic way

... i really love the map window

martignasse

ok, cool, i'll try to track and resolve these issues for the next version. but if you find some simple patch to reproduce, send them to me edit : hoooo yes, your upcoming liveosc version is very, very impressive and you push the matrix module so far :o that why i'm happy you just found one or two mi...

martignasse

23fx23 wrote:i noticed a light but i can't find how trigged:

got patchs with a matrix of 1x4 that returns arrays of 16?

can you reproduce, or provide an example patch to reproduce ?

with your intensive use of the matrix, i'm happy that you may found some bug

martignasse

i'm potentially interested too

martignasse

yes, really good job on theses modules

and a great demonstration of the SDK usability

martignasse

@Senso or Martignasse - At the moment I am getting the samplerate from TMasterInfo during InitModule. What happens if the user then changes Usine's samplerate and how do I get updated about this? Does InitModule get called again or do I have to check elsewhere that the samplerate has not altered? I...

martignasse

Hi caco :) how do I get the size of the actual area I can draw in? I have found how to get the module's height and width but this seems to be the full user module size rather than the actual drawable region? I can hack around it by using the width minus 20 pixels, which seems to work okay but I woul...

martignasse

Okay, I had a look at the simple filter example and I would need to draw the filter's frequency response within the user module. the first step is to compute some graphic data from the filter algorithm, and the best place is effectively in the user module itself. I also noticed that the filter has ...

martignasse

For "Drawing" in Usine we dont have many choice; 1°) Draw Object (Square and circles) 2°) Array ( But this is graphical sticks) Other choice ? Script ? yep, drawing is a lacking area in Usine... we are thinking about making a pixel area user module, populated with an array of pixel color... it's ma...

martignasse

@martignasse - I was impressed with the SDK, it was very quick and simple to add my filter code to the modules and get them to compile :) I did not have to make too many changes to get it working with mingw, just redine min/max and alter a few of the include names if I remember correctly. It probab...

martignasse

for my side, i use essentially the hook ones, but i name them pass through... about wirebox, i prefer to connect many wire one one output. anyway... they could be good candidates for some user modules (with the query system, ask for how many how many inlet/outlet) or just be part of everyone patch l...

martignasse

@Floego : cool you solved your problem more generally in usine, it's important to 'break' infinite update loop like in your patch. you should decide precisely when the update take place (what action or state cause the update) and put some glue modules (pass, pass if changed, 0 to 1...) to limit to o...

martignasse

Matrix Pack 1.2 [large][/large] you'll find in the download section the new version off the matrix pack :) http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/uploads.php?file=matrix_v12.jpg lots of new features and more examples and utils patchs improvements : - added inlets/outlets compatibility for patch with old ...

martignasse

hi caco, well done, nice to see such a great user module :) we really need more user modules like this :D I had to modify the SDK a little to get it to compile using mingw so let me know if it works. So far it is working fine for me but I only have the free version of Usine to test with. I'm really ...

martignasse

oups, not mentioned but...

HSLColor and RGBColor are now array compatible

i have updated the wiki

martignasse

wow, clever, and very useful

thanks

martignasse

cool, well done

i really like the 'examples guided tour', hope it will convince some potential new users

23fx23 wrote:will matrix comes apart Martin?

now the 5.20 is out, i'll update the matrix pack with the 1.2 version...
i just have one or two details to see with senso before that happen.

martignasse

gurulogic wrote:so basicly an audio routing matrix, correct? This is something we've needed for a long time!

yep, now that the generic matrix (next version 1.2) is kind of mature, i can make simplified and specialized version very easely

martignasse

what about an audio matrix that create wires in/out when cellz are on too? will try that.. ie 8x8, if swich on cell 2-4 it create a link between audioIn2 to audioOut4 ect. it's will be exactly that with the on/off mode for the fade mode, it will be like an audio mixer, but with multi in and multi o...

martignasse

i'm on the way to make a specialized and simplified matrix version : matrix - Audio Mixer

- X in, Y out
- mono or steteo
- on/off and fade mode.

mixer and splitter all in one, it should do the trick

martignasse

Clearscreen wrote:This looks great, but any hint on when this'll be released? I could do with some of this functionality...

should come out with the 5.18 version of usine and SDK ...

martignasse

yep, it's a great project. i really hope xavier (grabbs) will find another usiner to work with.

martignasse

bad news? No, it's just i made my time on this project. Has you surely now, computer are pumping so much time and energy. I don't know how you manage this plus some music for so long... It's an ambitious project, but i had to take important decision about my way of life and my professional activiti...

martignasse

Projet LDS use usine has his main tool to make music and some workshop for non musician. here to ear some music. here and here for some general infos. To limit my computer activities and for some other personal reason, i'm currently stopping my activities in the Projet LDS, so we are in need of some...

martignasse

I believe the problem we encounter is that the stringlist is a list of object, even if we change the capacity, we need to create object (strings in this case) for all members of the list for now, i solved this problem with a procedure // S is a global string variable Procedure ExtendStringList; var ...

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