Usine Road Map 2012

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 02 Jan 2012, 14:32

Hello to all the community.
At the Start of this New Year 2012 we wish you lots of joy, good news and success for you and all your family.

It's time for us to give you some information about the future of Usine and Sensomusic in what we call a "road map".

1)MacOS version
We are working on Usine for MacOS and probably iOS (iPad, etc.)
We plan to release the first alpha version this summer, and beta(s) at the end of the year. As you imagine, it's an hard job but very important because lots of musicians are working on Mac.
During this long development period, suggestions & improvement will be be probably delayed.

2)Usine will be simplified
The actual version of Usine inherit of several dark codes and old stuff in the engine and overall ergonomics. The development of the MacOS version is a good chance to change deeply the interface of Usine to be much more efficient and simpler. We'll let you know very soon our vision of what will be DAW in the future: get ride of the traditional track/timeline paradigm and turn Usine into a more "object" approach.

3)Sensomusic Foundation
In the middle of January we will launch the Sensomusic Foundation.
The Sensomusic foundation will be dedicated to artists and projects using Usine in a creative and innovative way.

Through various actions, we will try to provide financial supports to artists and projects during the year:
- best add-on contest
- licences Donation
- video clip contest
- direct financial support for artists or collective projects

4)OSC learn
we'll launch the next version of Usine very soon (5.71). The main improvement will be the implementation of 'OSC learn' functionality.

Senso++++

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 02 Jan 2012, 16:08

So it's official 2012 is gonna ROCK !

Thanks a lot !

multiphone · Unread post by **multiphone** » 02 Jan 2012, 18:22

Probably a good excuse to complete my collection apple taste.

Good news ! We will probably all very happy to inherit some of the advantages of Mac OS, hoping not to suffer too much disadvantage.

I stay tuned and available for testing.

OSC Learn! Waoouuu! A unique feature in the jungle of the OSC !

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 02 Jan 2012, 18:36

Yeah OSC learn is something I didn't dare to hope !

Floego · Unread post by **Floego** » 02 Jan 2012, 20:09

It surely will be a great year for Usine!

caco · Unread post by **caco** » 03 Jan 2012, 09:12

Wow an exciting and busy year for you Senso! The Foundation sounds like a great addition to the Usine community

Curious about the OSX port, are you going to be using Lazarus or are you moving away from Delphi?

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 03 Jan 2012, 13:23

The technical specification aren't totally fixed but we'll probably use several layers with
- Delphi XE2
- visual C++ + Juce

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 03 Jan 2012, 15:10

wouhou

joffo78 · Unread post by **joffo78** » 03 Jan 2012, 19:13

Senso if you can think about adding activate on master track on the track output module it would be wonderfull !!!

gthibert · Unread post by **gthibert** » 03 Jan 2012, 23:02

And what about Usine becoming open source ?

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 04 Jan 2012, 08:37

Precision about Usine Open Source

The open source project is still on the road but a little bit delayed. For that we need:
- create an efficient open source environment like sourceforge,
- create a very clear documentation and help for developers

It takes a lot of time and actually we try to focus on the MacOS version. The Open Source will quickly arrive (we hope) after.

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 04 Jan 2012, 13:59

senso wrote:turn Usine into a more "object" approach

Very good idea for usine as modular environment. This will open new ways for experimentation. Because I don't think that people choose or prefer Usinu for sound manipulation in conventional way.

senso wrote:We are working on Usine for MacOS and probably iOS

I hope this will not turn usine into onion like logic - next - next -next

ErotiCore SteNch · Unread post by **ErotiCore SteNch** » 07 Jan 2012, 15:26

is a 64 bit version of usine pro on the road map??that would be awesome

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 09 Jan 2012, 08:48

Hi all.

It is great idea to develop Usine on Mac Os. Sometimes i realise some workshop in music school about improvisation and non-conventionel music. Of course i work with Usine. There is a real desapointement when i tell to the teachers and musicians that Usine works only on Windows Computer ...
So great News !!!

I know it is a hard job ... thank you all.

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 09 Jan 2012, 08:52

Usine 6 will be 32 & 64bits.

gregh · Unread post by **gregh** » 05 Feb 2012, 03:47

senso wrote:2)Usine will be simplified
The actual version of Usine inherit of several dark codes and old stuff in the engine and overall ergonomics. The development of the MacOS version is a good chance to change deeply the interface of Usine to be much more efficient and simpler. We'll let you know very soon our vision of what will be DAW in the future: get ride of the traditional track/timeline paradigm and turn Usine into a more "object" approach.

I am very excited by this announcement - look forward to seeing a mockup of your vision.

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 01 Mar 2012, 08:44

I read somewhere in forum that main problem why Usine does not work on Linux is ASIO drivers. But Mac OS X also have no latency issues, therefore no ASIO drivers. Does this mean that v6 will be compatible with Linux too?

jeanrene · Unread post by **jeanrene** » 01 Mar 2012, 15:11

Personally I stay windows only for Usine, a mac version is welcome.
A wrapper dx plugins would be nice also (for freeware).
A envellope adsr integrated sampler for polyphony seems essential to me (I know I repeat myself).
All these projects are ambitious, good luck!

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 02 Mar 2012, 09:46

Great news about evolution !!

Senso said :
"get ride of the traditional track/timeline paradigm"

Does this mean no more time line ? I guess Time line can be usefull for installations or other uses ...

Anyway the way is great

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 02 Mar 2012, 10:25

Unfortunately Linux is not our priority. Remember that Sensomusic is a very small team...

jean-marc duchenne · Unread post by **jean-marc duchenne** » 02 Mar 2012, 10:29

r.erorr wrote:I read somewhere in forum that main problem why Usine does not work on Linux is ASIO drivers. But Mac OS X also have no latency issues, therefore no ASIO drivers. Does this mean that v6 will be compatible with Linux too?

I obviously understand well why an OSX version will be welcome. It is still the official mainstream for "professional" music...

But I find also that a Linux port would be a very coherent move considering Usine and Senso's "phylosophy".

jean-marc duchenne · Unread post by **jean-marc duchenne** » 02 Mar 2012, 10:32

senso wrote:Unfortunately Linux is not our priority. Remember that Sensomusic is a very small team...

Is a Wine compatibility something hard to implement ?
I think of Reaper that has been thought like this from the start and that runs very well in Linux without needing a special version.

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 02 Mar 2012, 15:43

jean-marc duchenne wrote:
r.erorr wrote:I read somewhere in forum that main problem why Usine does not work on Linux is ASIO drivers. But Mac OS X also have no latency issues, therefore no ASIO drivers. Does this mean that v6 will be compatible with Linux too?
I obviously understand well why an OSX version will be welcome. It is still the official mainstream for "professional" music...

But I find also that a Linux port would be a very coherent move considering Usine and Senso's "phylosophy".

If about philosophy.... Actually windows is not so bad now, but I' m afraid that so it stays forever. Because 8 is not moving on right direction, and I don' t think that 9 or even 10 will be better. The focus is on aesthetics not on performance. And maybe it's not because of windows but society and popular culture.
I have no doubt that Mac osx is very good, but that's against my metaphysical principle

luigiagostini · Unread post by **luigiagostini** » 04 May 2012, 11:36

Hello, a few lines just to state I love Easine/Usine and I am looking forward for the Mac version...
How is it going the development?

Keep up your great work, thanks

Luigi

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 May 2012, 12:13

Things are going very well for now , we will try to feed your curiosity as soon as possible

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 31 Jul 2012, 14:04

Hi,

Can you define a little more the future version ?

especially the "object" approach

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 31 Jul 2012, 15:24

we'll try to give you more details after this summer break, be patient .

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 31 Jul 2012, 16:47

Something I am wondering about, are the workspaces going to be compatible from version 5 to 6?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 31 Jul 2012, 18:12

Yes, we're working to have the best compatibility possible, maybe some adjustments to do , but this will not an hard work .

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 31 Jul 2012, 21:03

Aaaah, that's great news !!!

susceptor · Unread post by **susceptor** » 16 Sep 2012, 10:23

I searched for this, but couldn't find any info...

Will Usine 6 support 64 bit VSTs (or both 32/64 with bridging) and will it have the option to export 64 bit VSTs?
Also, will we have the option to customise the whole interface? (including the standard usine menus and whatnot from above the workspace)

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 16 Sep 2012, 16:11

Usine will be 64 bits and interface will be more customizable.
About VST export, nothing is really decided actually, so i can't tell you

seamus · Unread post by **seamus** » 16 Sep 2012, 18:48

Will midi be more stable?
I don't like always having to press "reset midi devices" all the time.

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 17 Sep 2012, 11:42

yes several midi improvements are in the road map too

susceptor · Unread post by **susceptor** » 03 Oct 2012, 16:38

So out of curiosity... when exactly is Usine 6 coming out?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 03 Oct 2012, 17:58

In software development "exactly" is an impossible word...

but we hope to have a beta version before the end of this year, don't worry

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 04 Oct 2012, 14:07

nay-seven wrote:In software development "exactly" is an impossible word...
but we hope to have a beta version before the end of this year, don't worry

Just little correction: "exactly" is impossible in world. it is possible only in mathematic and logic.
Actually this is why I like French philosophy, because they know it

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Oct 2012, 14:30

ha ha, yes, you're right !
and this is what makes the nature ( human or not) and music beautiful !

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 26 Oct 2012, 20:51

Hi,

What do you mean when you said "turn Usine into a more "object" approach"?

joffo78 · Unread post by **joffo78** » 26 Oct 2012, 23:13

It seems routing approach will be closer of legos instead of mixing desk

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 27 Oct 2012, 02:42

joffo78 wrote:It seems routing approach will be closer of legos instead of mixing desk

I hope so

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 27 Oct 2012, 10:17

You're right Joffo, all is "Lego" in this world

And you can expect to many improvements in routing and ergonomy .

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 27 Oct 2012, 10:43

I hope we'll can see some screen captures soon.

I'm very curious about it

iococoi · Unread post by **iococoi** » 27 Oct 2012, 11:20

yes please..some eye candies for the masses

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 27 Oct 2012, 16:32

Not easy to add screenshots actually , cause we focus more on new features, modules and big improvements , the future new graphic layout is not ready and down in the todo list.

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 07 Nov 2012, 10:54

I'm a little afraid that "lego orientation" will engage uSine into "puredata" or "Max" way, I choose uSine because of it's more intuitive and direct result possibilities. Mixing desk should last ? No ?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 07 Nov 2012, 11:14

Don't worry gdlive, we're really, really far from pure data.. !

When i talk about "lego" , it's only about his simplicity...if i want to put a red on a blue, i can simply take a red and add it on the blue...
if I don't want it anymore, I put it in the trash ...

GDLive · Unread post by **GDLive** » 07 Nov 2012, 11:31

ok !

The only difficulties that are staying concern colour-blinds...

r.erorr · Unread post by **r.erorr** » 07 Nov 2012, 17:55

Sounds like "What you see is what you get". then it's all about layout

susceptor · Unread post by **susceptor** » 08 Nov 2012, 15:25

nay-seven wrote:In software development "exactly" is an impossible word...
but we hope to have a beta version before the end of this year, don't worry

Soooo... about that beta?

:D
Do you think it's really going to come before the end of this year?

:D

susceptor · Unread post by **susceptor** » 08 Nov 2012, 15:26

nay-seven wrote:In software development "exactly" is an impossible word...
but we hope to have a beta version before the end of this year, don't worry

Soooo... about that beta?

:D
Do you think it's really going to come before the end of this year?

:D

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 08 Nov 2012, 16:05

there's 53 days left before the end of the year...
and we're working, we're working....

joffo78 · Unread post by **joffo78** » 08 Nov 2012, 17:24

Cool. That means the end of the world is for 43 days

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 08 Nov 2012, 18:16

I plan to buy a Macbook pro very soon. But i work a lot with Usine for all my audio live.

Did Usine will realy works on Mac OS X ?

Thanks, i know you work a lot for us.

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 08 Nov 2012, 19:02

Cool. That means the end of the world is for 43 days

Yes, it's the new naya prophecy !

" This will be the end of the Usine world as it has been
this will be a new world and you have to be prepared
you must accept to change to open the beta doors.."

Did Usine will realy works on Mac OS X ?

Yes, Usine [s]will[/s] works on Mac OS X ( from 10,6 )

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 09 Nov 2012, 16:15

Wahou !!! Great News and welcome to new Usine world.

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 09 Nov 2012, 18:03

hi,

usine 6 64 bits will be more efficient (cpu comsumption) than 32 bits?

did you have already compare the two versions ?

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 09 Nov 2012, 19:07

An other hysterical fan question about V6: Is there going to have a kind of native 32 bits plugin wrapper?

headphoner · Unread post by **headphoner** » 09 Nov 2012, 19:18

yes i' m an hysterical fan too

:P

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 09 Nov 2012, 19:47

I think we are a lot... And more important, it's extending!!

Thomas Helzle · Unread post by **Thomas Helzle** » 10 Nov 2012, 14:42

I am looking forward to this a lot!

All the best for you guys and your work!!!

Cheers,

Tom

ahonoe · Unread post by **ahonoe** » 11 Nov 2012, 16:21

Will scripting in U6 be compatible with U5 (and earlier)? (I'm just getting started with scripting, Maybe I should hold off until the new version comes out?)

Regards,

Scott

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 12 Nov 2012, 14:28

Thanks for your enthusiasm , hysterical fans..

,
We'll give you some news soon now, Usine 6 will really be a new product and ask a lot of work to the small team.

@Ahonoe : sorry , i can't really answer right now, this is not really decided yet.

seamus · Unread post by **seamus** » 04 Dec 2012, 00:59

will a Usine mac template be compatible with a Usine PC version?

nay-seven · Unread post by **nay-seven** » 04 Dec 2012, 09:10

yes, no problems !

AstralV66 · Unread post by **AstralV66** » 04 Dec 2012, 20:02

Is Hollyhock Usine 6 ?

Any tease on features yet ?

regards

AstralV

ethnix73 · Unread post by **ethnix73** » 04 Dec 2012, 20:49

It might be...
Check sensomusic youtube channel perhaps for new features

La Tenaille · Unread post by **La Tenaille** » 04 Dec 2012, 21:03

new layout and zoom possibilities are amazing

iococoi · Unread post by **iococoi** » 04 Dec 2012, 21:22

hollylujah!

ethnix73 · Unread post by **ethnix73** » 04 Dec 2012, 21:35

Devices and rack, automation record, synthetic view, pan and zoom, new binds system, add midi device dynamically, recreate option,automatic inlet creation, sequencer as a module, etc...

impatient to have a good hollyhockday

tanabarbier · Unread post by **tanabarbier** » 05 Dec 2012, 01:33

Automation recoooooooooord, sorry, aaaaaaaaah!!!!

Thomas Helzle · Unread post by **Thomas Helzle** » 07 Dec 2012, 00:43

BAAAAAANNNNNNNNAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Wow - the new direction is brilliant. Simple things like multi-select make me very happy.
The physics made me laugh out loud - what a cool thing to have!
I'm also very curious about the video support.

On first glance the Layout looks a bit confusing, but this is a very early version so I'm sure this will mature a lot until release.

I bought the pre-order offer immediately and hope to be able to give some positive feedback when the beta starts.
I'm really looking forward to that!

Thank you so much and congratulations to all involved!

Wow

Tom

barabou · Unread post by **barabou** » 27 Dec 2012, 10:37

hi Usiners,

I am an happy platinum member and I am sure there is still a lot of work to do on hollyhock,
but could we have some news about the iOS version ? it is still on the road ?
ok, i am like these children, who always want more gifts for Christmas ; ) !

thank you and congrats !!

francois

cmodica · Unread post by **cmodica** » 04 Jan 2013, 15:27

I have been buying my mac book pro. Now i am waiting for the Hollyhock. i hope it comming soon.

I know you work a lot and do the maximum.

See you soon.

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