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Gybe
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Unread post by Gybe » 25 Jan 2007, 15:03

Hi Usiners it's me again...

A new post for a new question...far less technical and maybe more interesting.

How do you use Usine and what kind of set up do you have ?

1- Hardware :
I just have my computer...maybe some MIDI controllers soon, sound card is a TASCAM US 122 on USB.

2- Software :
Usine, free reverb known as GlaceVerb (VST) and VST Rhodes MrRay73. More VST's to come.

3- Usine :
I use Usine as a live sampler (records sound and loops it), it also controls my real time effects (reverb, delays...). It also controls some sampler for additional sounds with the sequencer.
Usually I have one track per sampler (so not much with the free version :D) and some effect patches on other tracks.
Sequencer mode has some additional samples that give the basis of the songs usually organised as several loops (I switch manually to next one when needed).

If I manage to have all my question answered and experiment for some time for me to have the perfect set up, I will upgrade to the pro version and use Usine to control real time surround (with another sound card for sure !).

Now if you don't mind sharing your set up ;) ...

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Unread post by senso » 25 Jan 2007, 19:07

Just few words about my setup.

1) sound cards
-RME fireface (the best we can imagine) for 'big concerts' with a lot of musicians or in 5.1 surround. (48 samples of latency....)
-Presonus firebox for 'small gigs' (works fine)
-RME digi96.. at home

2) Remotes
- behringer BCR2000 (assigned to patches remotes)
- behringer BCF2000 (assigned to global remote)
- evolution Ekey (to trigg samples and 'play' piano)
- Lemur (still in experimetation)
- M-audio Axiom 61 (at home for composing)

3) Patches
Generally I use a lot of patches, with two main rules:
a) never use the same Fx, Samples, sound, process in two different bands (I play in arround 10 projects, so imagine...)
b) never use a Fx, samples, sound, process more than one time during a show...Except a reverb and a limiter that I put as 'insert' in the master section.
I know that most of Usiners only have a single complex setup, personally, I have a lot of simple workspaces that I load when I need.

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Unread post by lalo » 26 Jan 2007, 10:54

hi,

1. sound card RME Multiface (i love it)
2. Controllers (Remote SL 61, Kenton Control Freak Studio with 16 faders and 16 buttons, Behringer FCB-1010, a wacom tablet, the computer keyboard)

i try to follow the same rules as senso ;)
but i usually have a "basic" complex setup for all the projects...

lalo

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Unread post by bmoussay » 26 Jan 2007, 20:02

Hi,

My setup (on stage):
- macbook
- Motu Ultralite
- Lemur
- Roland FC 200
- microphone

At home: idem + a few analog FXs, modules and synths.

Then, depending on the projects: one or two midi keyboards, a fender rhodes and/or an acoustic piano, some hardware synths.

I use usine on stage mostly to play VSTi or apply FX to synths, piano, fender, controlling all this with the lemur and the FC200, but also at home for composing, experimenting, etc...

My setup, patches, workspaces are in perpetual evolution, depending on my precise musical needs, and this is why I've chosen to use Usine, because for me it's a software that really allows such freedom, without being too technical (like Max or Reaktor fo instance). I've been looking for years for "the perfect setup", but I came to the conclusion that it simply doesn't exist, it just has to change all the time (for me at least). With hardware it's possible to follow these changes, but it's heavy, expensive, and has a lot of inertia, with software it's unlimited (just by your imagination), easy to carry, but of course more "risky" (with all these "ghosts" hanging around in our computers, making them behave somtimes the wrong way). For the moment I'm experimenting with the second solution, and until now it's been working.

Rgds,

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Unread post by a440 » 29 Jan 2007, 15:54

Hey all. Here's my current live setup:

* Laptop running Usine and a bunch of VSTs
* CME UF7 - 76-note semi-weighted controller
* Novation X-Station25 - 2 octave controller/synth; also audio and MIDI interface for the computer
* M-Audio Axiom-25 - 2 octave controller
* Korg Karma (still love this thing, and I use the KARMA engine on one song that would be hard to duplicate in a VST)
* Alesis NanoPiano (Need a good piano sound on a few tracks, but this will probably be replaced with a VST sometime in the future)

Here's a shot of it in our practice room (http://flickr.com/photos/a440/350669123/in/set-1803489/). I'll be posting a few more shots later today from the gig this weekend.
Steve [ http://www.a440.org/steve/ ]

Novation X-Station 25 (ASIO/MIDI i/f)/CME UF7/M-Audio Axiom 25/Korg Karma

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Unread post by bsork » 30 Jan 2007, 10:02

And here's mine...

- Dell laptop
- M-Audio Ozonic MIDI controller/audio interface
- Usine and Reason
- Some freeware VTS effects like Glaceverb.
- Guitar rack (preamp, TC Fireworx, stompboxes, etc) with an extra audio output to Usine, and also some MIDI signals from the pedals to Usine
- A microphone once in a while

To have Usine and Reason playing together, I use two different ASIO drivers (M-Audio and ASIO4ALL), as well as Maple MIDI virtual ports to send MIDI from Usine to Reason.
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Unread post by paulbrousseau » 05 Feb 2007, 17:57

Hi All !
1 setups for me :
1 for live and 1 at home

LIVE :
Toshiba laptop pentium 2Ghz
Windows XP pro
1Go Ram
Ultralite MOTU soundcard
2 usb keyboards (one with controlers)
1 midi pedal rack (to control the samplers without stop playing keyboards)
Kaoss Pad 3 in aux send return

HOME :
Acer Athlon 64 2 x 4600Mhz
Windows Vista Premium
3Go Ram
FireFace 400 RME soundcard
Keyboards and controlers
+ Usine Live plugged on Usine Home sometimes

Not yet Usine Kitchen system for coffee but I hope it for very soon !!!
What else ?
Bye Bye

Paul Brousseau

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Unread post by senso » 06 Feb 2007, 23:17

It could be fun to exchange or workspace?
Just to have ideas, even if wee can't share vst's!
In the addon section?

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 07 Mar 2007, 23:35

Ooops I forgot to give mine, it's great time:

OS:
- Win XP Pro (switched to classical view and with many stuffs off)
Softs:
- Usine with free VST (Glaceverb, Kjaerhus classical FX, MidiFX...)
- not-free-at-all VSTis (Arturia Moog Modular V, NI-FM8, NI-Absynth, and I hope soon Giga VI plugin)
- Tascam GigaStudio with Maple MIDI (thanks to Bsork for this excellent solution)
- Sometimes Reason 3, always with Maple MIDI, for very very strange moving pads (I like Malstr?m for that)

Usine, GigaStudio and Reason using 3 different audio card outputs, I still have one free, not enough to go out from stereo production...
Usine handles audio FX for bass and vocal, and data flows between keyboards (midi and computer) and synths. And of course now, many automation.

Hard:
- build PC Pentium IV 3GHz, 2 Go RAM
- 3 HDrives whose 1 SATA for samples
- card: Echo Audio Mia 4in 4out.
- no MIDI controller (computer keyboard, but I did not find any motorized fader there, arrgh...)
- Basic MIDI keyboard (soon an 88 notes semi-weight with few controllers and some pedal; if you can suggest - or have one to sell...)
- Electric bass (Fernandes)
- Shure SM 58
- Yamaha mixing console MG12/4
- some percs (bodhr?n and other nice thinks I ignore the name and the use...), for live or samples.
- ...and a too small car!...

My workspaces?
Well, all mess around now... I did five huge complex ones, none of them was running fine.
Now, I rebuild everything in tracks and it works much better. I don't know yet if it will be one workspace per piece or one for the whole scheme (and still a huge workspace!).

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Unread post by grego mondo » 29 Apr 2007, 17:22

Hello down there

here is my set up

Laptop Sony PIV 2,3Ghz 1Ghz RAM. (sometimes I do have cuts due to CPU)
Presonus Firepod(works well, nice preamp).
BCR 2000 (midi controller) for hand's ability to work.
EoWave's Eobody (strange & great controllers) for live triggering (mostly for circus or dance shows).
need to buy a Midi foot controller
Novation Bass Station.
Zoom Sampler.

- Piezo & Microphones for music box, tuba, ukulele, senza ...
- Theremin into fx pedals

so much I've mostly been working on audio live looping.
Just getting in the Sequencer part of the wonderfull Usine.

I use Usine in two ways.
- In dance or circus shows, using noises or moves of the dancer to trigger samples or treatment and also for sequencing effects or Desk automation(like 02R) when on stage myself.
- In "pure free music" for building a live set up of looper/musician.
En attendant cordialement l'apocalypse ... 100% Usine !!
https://lesformesdufond.kaz.bzh/grego-mondo/
PC i7 2.6Ghz - Win11 / RME Fireface UFX
Tubas / Serpent / Music Box
Interfaces Midi / OSC / DMX

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Unread post by martignasse » 03 May 2007, 11:25

hi,

it's my turn, i'm just at the beginning of that stuff :

- micro ATX PC with core 2 duo, 2 G0 of ram, and two 250 Go HD in RAID 0 mode
- ESP1010 soundcard (official driver don't work with usine for me, but Asio4All are ok)
- BCR2000 midi surface control, for easy control.
- CME U-KEY keyboard
- one or two voice micro

soon will be added a micro pack to input drums and a midi pad for the drumer to deal with usine.

the goal it to have a two guys formation, one behind usine, and a drumer.
Martin FLEURENT - Usine Developer - SDK maintainer

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 04 May 2007, 16:55

martignasse wrote:soon will be added a micro pack to input drums and a midi pad for the drumer to deal with usine.
the goal it to have a two guys formation, one behind usine, and a drumer.
No VSTis? I mean, your formation is drums+audio processing? What about voice? This is a new kinda music: one instrument and audio processing (Sax, Harp...). Is there a commercial name for that (aka drum'n bass...)? Drum'n Comp? Drum'n Usine?

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Unread post by martignasse » 04 May 2007, 18:49

Vincent wrote:No VSTis? I mean, your formation is drums+audio processing? What about voice? This is a new kinda music: one instrument and audio processing (Sax, Harp...). Is there a commercial name for that (aka drum'n bass...)? Drum'n Comp? Drum'n Usine?
ho yes, lots of VST effects and VSTi, but things are not fixed yet, it's just the beginning.

For the voice, one micro for the drumer, and one for me, it will be sampled and processed in real time, for sure. A good example is to make the bass riff with the voice, usine process it with some VSTeffects to transform it in a bass sound, and finaly sample it and loop it. like that, we'll have the best of both world ( we hope ) : the "analogic power" and reactivity of the voice, and the infinite creativity of the computer (usine and VST in this case).

For the rest, some VSTi with vintage, fucky or strange sound/synth, and some VSTeffects, applied on the drums or whatever.

To explain my approach, here is what i said in another thread, but in fact it's better to put it here :
martignasse wrote:In fact, i'm not a "musician", i never studied or practiced music before. But i made some kind of experimental test years ago (with SynCmodular and AnalogBox II), and i was always interested by "the sound".
A friend of mine, who is drumer, want to try something after he listened my loosy track, so here we go, and usine is perfect for wath we want to do.

I'm so exited to investigate this new world :-)
About commercial name, do you speak about this new kind of music ?
.... quite frankly i don't know, i'm not a specialist. i don't know if one exist, but "human usine work" could be a good one.

or about the formation name ?
it's "La dynamique du spectre" or "Large Spectral Dynamic"

waow, a long post, but it's good to speak with you.

A+
Martin FLEURENT - Usine Developer - SDK maintainer

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 06 May 2007, 16:06

martignasse wrote:do you speak about this new kind of music ? [....] but "human usine work" could be a good one.
I think that using the name of Usine could be a good idea, since for now, Senso won't intent any legal action, hey, will he? Something like "Usine at Work" or "Usin't Work" that could be understood as "Using Not Work"? Deleting the "e" of Usine makes we don't walk on the copyright!
"Usin't Work" could finally do "UW" (U double U) which is a wide field for imagination.
martignasse wrote:"La dynamique du spectre" or "Large Spectral Dynamic"
"Large Spectral Dynamic" = LSD. Not a coincidence...
About "La dynamique du spectre", as an author, I can say that a title written according to the pattern "La/la blabla du/de la blabla" should be improved. Too many titles like this; it's poor. My publisher taught me that! But keep the background idea, it sounds enigmatic and luminous (spectre/spectrum = dark/light), I like it.
martignasse wrote:waow, a long post, but it's good to speak with you.
Thanks; don't worry about long posts while they are shorter than mine! In fact, I've noticed that long posts are not read carefully and generally not answered... Posts speaking, if you want to have the last word, be very long!
And, that's true, we all have lots of things to say.

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Unread post by héliouk 6 » 01 Feb 2008, 16:20

hello guys,i'm a new user,discovering the beast...impressive..
for the moment trying to use it whith my drum ,a novation bass station,little instruments,voice ,linked by firepod,whith gt5 effects, whith core duo,all that is working very good,the idea is to make a duo of instrumentist/usiner whith my friend grego mondo,we've just begun,i don't know what it 'll be, but for the moment,it's very fun....

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