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Posted: 08 Feb 2011, 14:01
by ethnix73
Before uploading this patch as an addons, i would like to have some feedback about bugs, suggestions....
It's a kind of mix between molar and mlr. You can use it with or without a launchpad.
The 4 last rows allow you to change wich sample will be played.
The 4 first rows displays the actual part of the sample being played (first row=sampler A, second row=second sampler...). You can click on a cell or a pad to play the sample from this position.
Go x= play the sample
rec b= activate audio recording
rec pad = activate the recording for the pad in the order they are played (You can record even if the sample is Go x is not activated, a la MPC).
The main preset manager is yet buggy for the moment. Test it if you want to gave me some feedback.
The four options switchs shows the parameters for each samplers.
Here you can see the sequencer part, where you can reorder your slice.
There is also a few parameters to adapt the play speed (nb of beats, nb of bars).
You can choose if your sample will be played oneshot, sliced and looped or sliced and played only once.
You can also choose your source for recording : audio in= soundcard audio in , resampling = all playing samplers will be recorded as a new phrase.
Input quantize allow to choose the kind of quantization used when you play pads live: the same as the sequence or a free one...
Tempo and speed parameters are just visual feedback.
A little vidéo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efg-h5hb8fc
This patch is only for testing purpose for the moment, because they are yet some bugs. Perhaps some functions will be added or will disapear...Waiting for your feedback:
[s]
http://ethnix73.free.fr/Usine/Uslice/Uslice.pat[/s]
See Below
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 19:10
by nay-seven
really a little monster Ethnix !
I've to test deeply and to study some hours/days i suppose
what i like is this slice method , i always dream about monome, so maybe you can give us a cool one
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 19:42
by ethnix73
Yes, nay-seven, test it deeply. That's why i created this thread. I spended a few months studying more deeply Usine arrays, matrix module, and monome application ( perhaps later, i will try to make a patch inspired by presscafe from stretta...).
Ask for more information if you need, because i have just gave a rapid presentation...
I have also some optimisation to do, i believe...but will certainly be done at last.
In this version, choosing files is only implemeted with pads, not with matrix cells.
For information, there was a little bug with recording and pm (first slice was not played after recording), and i've solved it this morning.
I added also the possiblity to create a "temporary loop" by pressing two pads without releasing them (as in mlr), but it's not yet implemeted for the matrix cells.
Would like to know also if you have crashes...
And finally, my main question for the moment is: Should i keep the resampling function as a part for each row, or put it in a separate function...
Feel free to give negative or positive criticism, that's what i'm waiting for.
P.S: i will put a new version tomorrow
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 20:50
by nay-seven
I added also the possiblity to create a "temporary loop" by pressing two pads without releasing them (as in mlr), but it's not yet implemeted for the matrix cells.
maybe not easy cause the matrix is'nt multitouch..?( or use the new poly feature ?)
Would like to know also if you have crashes...
none
And finally, my main question for the moment is: Should i keep the resampling function as a part for each row, or put it in a separate function...
yes i think it's not the priority , could be interesting to work on a "lite " version first
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 22:23
by nay-seven
ok, so some question
i can't change samples with the last 4 row , only with midi note, could be cool to edit it via the matrix..?
what is the cell with yellow border
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 22:49
by ethnix73
Nay-seven wrote:
i can't change samples with the last 4 row , only with midi note, could be cool to edit it via the matrix..?
ethnix73 wrote:
In this version, choosing files is only implemeted with pads, not with matrix cells.

....Will be in the tomorrow version
nay-seven wrote:
what is the cell with yellow border
it's a kind of fossil

Initially, visual feedback of the tempo with sixteenth notes was reflected in the first row of the matrix. But i have removed it for the moment because it was really too heavy on cpu...
It's just a visual artifact, i will remove it.
By the way, could you tell me the cpu usage on your pc (wich asio settings, wich cpu) ?
Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 23:53
by ethnix73
I added also the possiblity to create a "temporary loop" by pressing two pads without releasing them (as in mlr), but it's not yet implemeted for the matrix cells.
maybe not easy cause the matrix is'nt multitouch..?( or use the new poly feature ?)
I did not had this in mind....I will have to think about it....
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 00:40
by nay-seven
i'm around 15/20% on a dual core amd, with asio buffer 128
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 01:13
by nay-seven
definitively an inspiring patch Ethnix !
as i don't have any launchpad, i 'll certainly adapt this to my need ( with special copyright of course

Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 10:15
by ethnix73
i'm around 15/20% on a dual core amd, with asio buffer 128
It's quite high. Wich
refresh speed setting have you?
as i don't have any launchpad, i 'll certainly adapt this to my need ( with special copyright of course
No problem nay-seven. The main dilemna with this patch is too combine function for the launchpad AND the tactile interface.
The solution is perhaps to make two diférent versions...
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 10:43
by nay-seven
It's quite high. Wich refresh speed setting have you?
slow 80ms
The solution is perhaps to make two diférent versions...
yes, i thinks so !
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 11:59
by ethnix73
slow 80ms
With a core2dou 8400, asio buffer at 128:
Easine with
refresh speed at 25ms = 5% to 7%
Usine stand alone with
refresh speed at 50ms 5%to 7%
So I will make two final versions....
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 12:45
by nay-seven
yes, i've also this result but only on my last notebook
MS Windows 7 64-bit / Intel Pentium T4400 @ 2.20GHz
maybe time to upgrade the other one..
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 13:33
by ethnix73
I've updated the link on the first message:
-You can choose file within the matrix now
-Implemented temporary loop within launchpad (press two pad at the same time without releasing them to set the loop, and press only one pad to stop temporary loop), but is not implemented with the matrix cells
-bug fixed= first slice was not played after an audio recording
Posted: 11 Feb 2011, 13:34
by ethnix73
maybe time to upgrade the other one..
Don't know nay-seven

It was just to know if it was not too cpu heavy on older configuration...
Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 02:12
by soundmind
this looks cool! will test when time permits.
Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 16:43
by ZOUKOUPOMME
Thank you Ethnix! I feel I'll play with

Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 18:07
by ethnix73
@soundmind:
thanks. Don't hesitate to post your comments (+ or -) when you can test it.
@zoukopomme:
If we manage your ohm64 to work correctly, this patch will be really easily adaptable to it.
Posted: 12 Feb 2011, 18:15
by ZOUKOUPOMME
I am impatient

(your gmail..)
Posted: 18 Feb 2011, 12:16
by ethnix73
I've updated the link on the first post.
A few bugs resolved:
-Drag&Drop was not implemented in sampler A and B (:rolleyes:)
-Changing a preset in the PM could could lead to repeat the same cell/pad avoer and over.
-Changing the played file in the option window was not reflected on the matrix/launchpad and inversely
A new function:
-Changing file while pad rec is activated is now recorded
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 10:51
by soundmind
this looks very deep in functionality. I am downloading the update now. one suggestion I have is to upload the patch to the forum servers because the one you provided takes 15 or more minutes to download at about 25 KB/sec. I am looking forward to continue to test. The concept looks interesting.
Posted: 26 Feb 2011, 11:05
by ethnix73
Oups, ok soundmind...
i nearly never download from my web site. i will upload it to the forum servers, as i've got a new version....no, two new versions: one for the launchpad, a one only with matrix cells.
By the way, in the version you've downloaded, there is always the bug with drag&drop, it's related with the pm

...definitivly solved in the two versions i will upload.
Maybe i should start to make the wiki for a better explanation about this patch, but diving in Csound is a temptation difficult to resist

Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 11:29
by ethnix73
I've uploaded a new version as a workspace.
This one is only for use with a launchpad or a midi controller with the same midi settings as a launchpad.
The main control panel have changed and looks like now:
You can download it here:
[s]
http://sensomusic.com/forums/uploads.ph ... d%2011.wkp[/s]
See below
I will upload a version for use without launchpad in the next days...
Posted: 01 Mar 2011, 11:34
by ethnix73
Oups,
Don't forget to reset the midi learn on the play buttons.....before making yours....
Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 12:20
by soundmind
any word on the non launchpad version?
Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 16:54
by ethnix73
Hi soundmind,
Here is a new version. Some little changes to do yet certainly, but the release should be near now.
You will find in the zip file:
- A launchpad version
- A matrix only version
- A Ohm64 version (but with still a few bugs)
- Some documentation ( patch explanation and how to configure another host with Usine vst, here Reaper for the example)
Download it here
Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 16:57
by ethnix73
A screenshot from the matrix version (i'm not yet sure of the layout...)

Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 12:47
by ethnix73
I've uploaded a new version but only for the launchpad. It should the last one before adding this patch to the addon section.
A few improvments:
-Pan parameter
-Start and end position per sampler wich allows to slice only a part of a sample.
-A filter per sampler
-Two different mode for the pitch:
Rythm and
Melody to make more accurate pitch-shifting.
-A new mode for the recording setting: You can now record
audio in and
resampling at the same time with the
all mode.
A screenshot of the sampler settings panel:
You can download the patch
here.
Posted: 10 Mar 2011, 23:28
by moody33
Thanks to share Ethnix !

Posted: 20 Aug 2012, 18:13
by skei
i know this thread is a bit old, but i just bought usine, and want to start experimenting with my launchpad...
clicking the link(s), gives me "Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated."
is this available anywhere else?
- skei
Posted: 20 Aug 2012, 18:32
by nay-seven
Hello Skei and welcome
yes this patch is not any more on the uploader , i v' keep a copy , you can
download it here
I'm also a launchpad user, not easy at first cause first built for ableton, I'll add a video tomorrow with a workspace I'm working on and maybe an add-on later ( I'm using nonome to simplify midi/OSC routing )
Posted: 20 Aug 2012, 18:41
by skei
thanx a lot! marvellous service!
off for experimenting and (hopefully) some learning

Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 10:33
by ethnix73
hello skei and nay-seven. Happy to know this patch have yet some interest.
Unfortunatly, i've not been able to resolve some bugs in this patch, and i could not work more on it because i haven't got anymore a launchpad
Anyway, thanks for keeping a copy and sharing it nay-seven!
If you have questions skei, i would be happy to answer you.