Usine is good

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 23 Apr 2007, 00:41

Like the new version, still discovering new and lod capabilities, very pleasant to spend time with the 2.81 !!

Love the long sampling time !! but it seems we can't loop while overdubing (otherwise only the part from drop to end is recorded)

In samplers, I'd like to have a switch on "save name" to have it on the interface is there anyway I can do that ?

Just putting my nose into scripting (could be nice for midi potaging) it seems exciting !!

Bravo, j'aime beaucoup ce que vous faites !!

Vincent · Unread post by **Vincent** » 23 Apr 2007, 01:00

grego mondo wrote:but it seems we can't loop while overdubing

Maybe with two samplers?

grego mondo wrote:In samplers, I'd like to have a switch on "save name" to have it on the interface is there anyway I can do that ?

Mmmm, you like typing on stage, do you? Just joking, sorry...

grego mondo wrote:Just putting my nose into scripting (could be nice for midi potaging) it seems exciting !!

Potaging, potaging... ah ces jeunes. If we don't speak English here, we're dead, man!

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 23 Apr 2007, 09:01

hello,
I can create easily a "save name" inlet in the sampler module if you need it.

lematt · Unread post by **lematt** » 24 Apr 2007, 14:57

wow i made a randommy drum machine in a few minutes. the sampler module is REALLY nice. and usine seems to perfectly fit to my "modular way of thinking". I'm an audiomulch user and a bidule user, but Usine seriously rocks !

I'm gonna register.

bmoussay · Unread post by **bmoussay** » 24 Apr 2007, 15:27

Hi Grego Mondo,

For looping while overdubbing, just check the "echoplex" patch in the add-ons, that's what it's made for, and of course you can customize it to fit your precise needs.
Rgds,

B.

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 26 Apr 2007, 14:32

thanks for the echoplexx, it's great ! (love the undo, redo fonction)

OTIV · Unread post by **OTIV** » 30 Apr 2007, 00:42

Hi all!

lematt wrote:wow i made a randommy drum machine in a few minutes. the sampler module is REALLY nice. and Usine seems to perfectly fit to my "modular way of thinking". I'm an audiomulch user and a bidule user, but Usine seriously rocks !

Well, well, this modular way of thinking is really great. I love it too. But it seems to me I'm missing something great there.
I mean, should I leave some room for random in my music?
And all guys talking about loops... I just feel... dropped. I don't know what to do with loops! I really don't! As soon I'm in the second loop I want to go out of it. Is there something I need to be explicated, or am I stupid or what?
Hmm, I hope my case is not desperate. I don't want to miss any Usine's capacity. If some of you can give me a few minutes, maybe...

Vincent · Unread post by **Vincent** » 02 May 2007, 18:11

Hey! Don't worry, don't make loops! Usine gives you the opportunity to make it easy, that's all. That does not mean it's some kind of artistic or musical low!
I must say that I create almost no sound with Usine itself. But I'm wondering how to record long midi sequences and transpose them in order to be able to play some 2(5(6)) voices inventions or fugues with different VSTis, just to give nightmares to master Bach. hu-hu...
Make your own artistic and/or musical low with Usine!

bmoussay · Unread post by **bmoussay** » 03 May 2007, 00:53

Hey Vincent,

I imagine that you mean "law" when you write "low"

Just to add that I agree with you, Usine is more than an amazing "loop machine". There are so many uses of it:
- midi audio router
- extremely powerful VST host
- computer-human communication and interaction
- real time audio transformer-looper-sampler-mangler-ice cream maker
- compositional tool
- working space for improvisation and/or stucture
- usable very simply or customizable to very deep and complex level
- very sublte "randomness" manipulator
- the perfect tool (an musician friendly), right in between the great ergonomy (but sometimes deceiving limits and/or slightly too much commercial orientations) of Ableton Live and the unlimited and ultra powerful but uninviting and often too complex and technical for musicians Max/MSP or NI Reaktor. And moreover extremely stable.
- etc....

Well this is not a commercial for Usine but simply some more thoughts after a while of using Usine until now...
In one word I love Usine for what it gives me mostly: freedom.

Rgds,

B.

Vincent · Unread post by **Vincent** » 03 May 2007, 01:36

bmoussay wrote:- compositional tool

Really? I'm wondering how. I'm used to compose with notes on a score. A very antique way, indeed, but truly the most free I know. How do you compose? That could be a huge topic.
It's true that I really like improvising with Usine and sometimes, those impros drive me to compose something. I am thinking to a new scripting musical syntax specially for Usine. I've began some stuffs with Finale. I think we'll have to create a specific language, just like it have been done for dance (with Finale too).

bmoussay wrote:- the perfect tool (and musician friendly), right in between the great ergonomy (but sometimes deceiving limits and/or slightly too much commercial orientations) of Ableton Live and the unlimited and ultra powerful but uninviting and often too complex and technical for musicians Max/MSP or NI Reaktor. And moreover extremely stable.

Well, I'm not sure I completely agree. Max/MSP, as far as I know, requires real deep knowledge, not Reaktor. I use Usine and Reaktor together, it's just great. And I have no knowledge.
Reaktor is very stable to. Zero crash to zero crash. One important difference, thou, with CPU overload: Reaktor just stops as Usine stops half a second and restarts. On stage, in the middle of your solo, it's not exactly the same trip...

bmoussay wrote:Well this is not a commercial for Usine but simply some more thoughts after a while of using Usine until now...

Hem, hem, hem... It looks like some commercial. Just the same when I talk about GigaStudio... Or Usine, well, OK.

bmoussay wrote:In one word I love Usine for what it gives me mostly: freedom

...of playing music, of making it.
Freedom, yes, and pleasure. A lot of pleasure in music.

BTW, yes, I meant law... significant slip of words...

bmoussay · Unread post by **bmoussay** » 03 May 2007, 23:14

Hi,

Well about composing, I use Usine for instance to compose small midi sequences in the piano roll and then mangle them with patching, using random, sync module etc... The sequencer is also very useful.
Or to record and mix loops of different kinds.
When comosing I use improvisation a lot as a basis to create musical ideas, wich I then refine and adjust to my taste and needs. For this Usine is perfect.

About Reaktor, I too use it a lot and appreciate it a lot. But I actually don't really build my own instruments in Reaktor (I find it too long and technical, and not so much intuitive), neither do I really use the built in instruments in an advanced way since each of them is so specific and a whole world in itself (especially the grooveboxes), so I mainly use them "as is", or sometimes modify them a bit to my needs. But what I do a lot is simply to patch a few Usine modules and wires to them and then, very easily, the Reaktor instruments sound really surprising. I really find Usine globally more simple and intuitive. But for sure Reaktor is really great sounding.

Rgds,

B.

Vincent · Unread post by **Vincent** » 03 May 2007, 23:32

bmoussay wrote:what I do a lot is simply to patch a few Usine modules and wires to them and then, very easily, the Reaktor instruments sound really surprising.

really surprising and really good! Yeah, I like that. I already did the suggestion but try this, it's just fearsome: Carbon2/Sprawm Zero connected to Istavan Kaldor eDirt. Really dirty. I'm sure Handel would have love it. I'm gonna compose a short sequenced random almond fugue for this (and maybe something else). Just give me a couple of years. Life is too short now we run Usine.

Srez · Unread post by **Srez** » 20 Sep 2007, 12:37

hello, question for Usine users, is it possible to create quiqly something like idm, glitch, electronica lo fi nice random drums in Usine ?....is it good for it?....

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 20 Sep 2007, 15:20

You can make a lot of sound manipulation with Usine.
But the best way is often to download a VST which does the job?
I'm sure you can find good ones on the net.

Anyway, It can be a good suggestion to add some crusher, glitcher modules in usine!

Srez · Unread post by **Srez** » 20 Sep 2007, 16:09

internal Usine effects and addons not allow to create something like? Im asking, because want to try Usine and if i like it, i will buy. I saw live cut addon and glitcher serie and others, i think they are useful too. Im not tried Usine yet, for that reason i ask you, you know better Usine. One question also, Usine does not allow to record(mixdown) patterns directly to loop like in Ableton?

Srez · Unread post by **Srez** » 20 Sep 2007, 16:25

senso wrote:You can make a lot of sound manipulation with Usine.
But the best way is often to download a VST which does the job?
I'm sure you can find good ones on the net.

Anyway, It can be a good suggestion to add some crusher, glitcher modules in usine!

Nice idea, how long we should wait those modules:)?

Srez · Unread post by **Srez** » 20 Sep 2007, 17:03

hello again, Usine is develoved for live only? or i can work with it as in sequencer?

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 20 Sep 2007, 19:11

personally I use it for my all my compositions, but it doesn't replace protools...
I frequently use the direct to disk recording and then I mix in protools.
But they are many ways to use Usine.

Pellucid · Unread post by **Pellucid** » 20 Sep 2007, 21:21

Olivier,
you didnt answer, addons is useful for lo-fi click and cuts drums and something like glitch ?

YouTube · Unread post by **senso** » 20 Sep 2007, 21:36

Hello,
generally, you don't have in Usine modules that you can find as VST version easily on the net.

- crusher, lo-fi resampler, or reverb, compressors, good EQs etc.

but in the add-on section you can find a lot of unusual destructive effects, real time sample cutter,
The 'Glitcher pack' and 'AFX pack' do a good job to trash your sound.

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