Energy XT2

[moody33]

Hi!

I'm working with energy xt2 inside Usine, but there is a GUI trouble:
-Right click's XT2 menu don't work
-First time XT2 is load , I have to reduce usine screen and reopen it ( just the panel). If I do not this, I haven't got access to the file menu.

Is it an XT2 problem? or a usine problem?

Thanks.

[senso]

i'll check it

[moody33]

Ok, thanks you.

In fact, right click seems to work, but the menu is open behind XT2 panel....so we can't have access to it. Whish this help you to find the bug.

[Vincent]

Hi Moody,

I met the same issue with another VST.
My (temporary) solution: move down the VST window so that the menu or the message box has to appear above.
Don't forget before clicking...

[senso]

it's an old bug that i have toubles to fix...
I hope to find it soon.

[Vincent]

There is something somewhere (in Usine itself?) that forces the VST window to stay on top, even when that instance creates new windows, messages or menus. This is the reason why they "appear" behind it.
For now, we have to think about it: move it out of the way before saving programs or clicking on menus!

[kara]

I hope this will be solved soon, Ext is the ideal compliment to Usine

[senso]

The XT2 bug is fixed.
Next version in few days now.

[kara]

wow great !!!

k

Having said that, I actually wonder if I will need Ext anymore. Usine seems capable of doing everything that Ext does and even more !

[triple-p]

I wonder that to, I like ext2 but the comp view in it is weak when compared to Usine. The interface of usine in a way reminds me of ext2 in that the sequencer is nice and unclutterd, I have not tryed ext2 inside of usine yet, still using the demo atm but i am so excited to get the gold in another day or so.
This seems like such a fantastic product. The price is almost unbelievable.

[kara]

I use Ext since years, even since the beta version.
At the moment I dropped it, IMHO there is nothing in Ext that you can't do (or build) in Usine.
There are even quit some things that you can do nativly in Usine as where in Ext you need external plugins for.

Example : My partner in our duo plays a windcontroller WX5. When she plays it with a dedicated hardware module it works fine. Now when you want to use it with a Vsti, there is a problem because a lot of vsti's don't understand breathcontrol. Solution, a litle coded module by me that converts the breatcontrol CC in volume CC 15 min. of work and it works like a charme.

Just to show how easy this is usine, here is the code :
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//////////////////////////
// For CC2 to CC7
/////////////////////////
// parameters declaration
var input : Tparameter;
var output : Tparameter;

// initialisation : create parameters
procedure init;
begin
Input := CreateParam('In',ptMidi);
Output := CreateParam('Out',ptMidi);

SetIsInput(Output,false);
SetIsOutPut(Input,false);

end;

// Global variables
var i : integer;
var nbOfMidi : integer;
var ReceivedMidi : TMidi;

//////////////////////////////
// main proc
//////////////////////////////
begin
nbOfMidi := GetLength(input); // get the number of incoming midi codes
if nbOfMidi > 0
then begin
SetLength(outPut,nbOfMidi); // set the number of output codes
for i := 0 to nbOfMidi-1 // loop for all input codes, for polyphonic data (chords)
do begin
GetMidiArrayValue(input,i,ReceivedMidi); // get each code
if ReceivedMidi.Msg = 176 then
begin
if ReceivedMidi.data1= 2 then ReceivedMidi.data1 := 7; // force CC2 to CC7 (volume)
end;
if ReceivedMidi.data1= 7 then ReceivedMidi.data2 := (ReceivedMidi.data2 * 2)+30;
if ReceivedMidi.data2 > 127 then ReceivedMidi.data2 := 127;

SetMidiArrayValue(output,i,ReceivedMidi); // set output value
end;
end
else SetLength(outPut,0); // nothing received, set out length to 0

end.
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It could be shorter, since the WX is monophonic, so I shouldn't take in account the loop for possible chords. I left it in the code, since I'm writing another module that will create chords from single notes.
As you can see, I allso change the amount of CC received to adapt the plug to here style of playing...
Very easy to do.



And I don't even talk about all features that Usine has dedicated to live use.
You shouldn't forget that the base filosofy of both softwares are different. Ext has from the beginning been developped as a modular sequencer environment, the main use was and is in a studio. Jorgen has added after that some kind of live-mode. IMHO is was clumsy and not realy well implemented.
Usine is a real live oriented environment and developped as such, you simple can see it.
The only thing I could ask Senso is, 'don't clutter it with feature we don't need !' Usine should stay a live setup tool and not become a pseudo DAW.
I would like to see the interface builder a bit more developped, it is a bit weak at the moment, and it is very important to build live sets.

k

[senso]

thanks kara.
I'm happy to know that you can become an expert in less than two weeks.
You are right, I'll try to keep Usine in the live direction. The main reason is that it's my job: be on stage! I'm only a musician...

[kara]

o i'm far from an expert but know my way a bit in programming, especially pyrhon.
and I think that what i wanted could be done with standard modules too, but I had no idea how (there goes the expert ) after looking at the coding examples I realised it was very easy to do with a couple of lines in a code component.

[triple-p]

why not be a daw to though?
I mean having the best of both worlds would be very cool
Just got the gold today so i still have alot to learn about the program.
The sequencer already in it though seems pretty nice imo.
but really when i think about it, I have fl7 which is a vsti as well and so is ext2 which i also have so either way i guess i can have the best of both worlds!!