Usine as control surface for Ableton

[sm_jamieson]

I have a live playing requirement to uses some Ableton Live instruments alongside my VSTs.
Resampling to another VST supported format would be a nightmare,

But I cannot manage without my Usine SDK User midi control module (sliders, knobs etc.) This mainly sends midi to Usine hosted VSTs (but also a few wires to effects).

If I was to run the VSTs in Ableton, how could I send midi (and OSC ?) messages to control
the VSTs in Ableton ? (Note I have Ableton Live standard so Max for Live is not available (and too expensive)).

Ideally 16 midi channels to each channel strip in Ableton.

Can I run Usine with No Audio (to reduce CPU hit) and still process midi ?

I've also seen this https://github.com/ideoforms/AbletonOSC but I suspect you would need Max for Live to do anything with it.

Has anyone done something like this who can offer advice / ideas ?


Thanks,
Simon.

[oli_lab]

HI,
a virtual midi port should do : https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software ... lmidi.html

or VB audio matrix router, that does Audio as well :

https://vb-audio.com/Cable/index.htm

https://vb-audio.com/Matrix/coconut.htm

cheers

[sm_jamieson]

Thanks. Unfortunately I have discovered max for Live !! How does that compare to Usine ?
Can you create and entirely custom touchscreen UI like a Usine SDK module ?

[oli_lab]

At least you can buld your GUI in Usine and send OSC to max4live

[23fx23]

Did such a live touch apc remote by the past, (mind ya was 15 years ago , feeling old lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgf7nXyLGJ8

Think wasnt ever hh at the time, prob v5 and older liveosc
But can go pretty deep with osc and scripting, accessing all devices, tracks,sends ect params
Then using virtual midi ports like loopmidi could send all midi stuff