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Unread post by sm_jamieson » 17 Jan 2019, 12:57

Some VSTs take a while to open their user interface window, and with lots of VST windows open they are all over
the Usine window and get in the way (especially on a laptop).
It would be useful if the VST window could be open, but "hidden", moved under the Usine window, or shifted off the
side of the screen under the control of Usine so that you can select the open window to use. This window would then
be put in the middle of the screen, or at a user controlled location.
Thanks,
Simon.

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Unread post by senso » 17 Jan 2019, 20:18

I'll try to find a soluce for that.
But I'll add 2 options on the vst module
- set as a forward (stay on top) window or backward
- a bring to front input
I'll try to do that.

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Unread post by woodslanding » 09 Jan 2020, 22:43

another option, which I enabled in Reaper, is to have only one FX window open at a time. So opening a new one closes the old one.... don't know if that's any easier to implement, or if it would solve the OP's problem.....
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Unread post by sm_jamieson » 10 Jan 2020, 11:54

Regarding one window open at a time, the plugin module has a "visible" switch input/output as well as the toggle.
So you could produce a patch to do this. You'd have to use buses if you plugins are in different patches.

The other point about hiding the VST windows is that you can
1. Ask the VST to open its GUI - which can take some time
2. Hide the VST GUI, but leave it open - so when it is un-hidden it appears to have opened instantly.

The "visible" toggle or switch on the plugin module is I presume asking the VST to open/close it's GUI.

The possible down-side to leaving the GUI open but hidden, is that the VST could be performing some GUI actions
that it would not if the GUI was closed. But I would expect the OS window handling to stop most of that.
But it would be nice to have the option.

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Unread post by senso » 12 Jan 2020, 16:29

@woodslanding : actually all VST are totally independents so hard to implement...

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Unread post by woodslanding » 13 Jan 2020, 00:59

Interesting. I wonder how Reaper does it....
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Unread post by sm_jamieson » 14 Jan 2020, 22:23

The plugin module seems to use the Juce library - at least the version in the SDK examples does.
There may be some Juce functions that can do it.

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Unread post by SylvainT » 16 Jan 2020, 12:53

Very simple to implement with some switches (make a group) and the new HH4 bind feature (shift-ctrl drag and drop)

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