option to save and load master channels with wkp

[woodslanding]

There is stuff I need to put in the master channel of my primary wkp that I do not want to put in a new empty wkp--audio will break if there are not certain values at data buss inputs.

I would like to save master info with the wkp. Could we have an option to do this? Otherwise, I have to keep swapping the master channels in and out.

thanks,
-e

[senso]

Yes it can be an useful option.

the main pb is that there is no real 'option setting' for workspaces.
I have first to create it somewhere and think about what to put in...

[woodslanding]

well, it could be a global setting. That's what I was thinking.

If the setting is enabled, and the wkp being loaded doesn't have a master section, the existing master section would be left in place. If the setting is disabled, the info about the master of the loaded wkp would be ignored.

[senso]

I'm not sure of your point of view, very dangerous in my mind.
this option must be attached with the current workspace, not global.
I need time to find a safe solution.

[woodslanding]

hmmm. okay. I guess I don't understand the danger.....

For me, I can't understand why master out sections are not always saved with all wkps to begin with. Why would you not want this to happen?

Anyway, take your time--not all that important....

cheers,
-e

[martignasse]

hmmm. okay. I guess I don't understand the danger.....

For me, I can't understand why master out sections are not always saved with all wkps to begin with. Why would you not want this to happen?

the way i understand it :

master section is more about what you have in (micro, preamp, intru...) an out (sono, ampli...) of usine.
'normally', it's not much related to what you have inside a workspace, but more about preparing audio inputs and... mastering outputs.

[senso]

exactly, what I have in mind Martin,
the master must be independent of the wkp.
the idea to implement this suggestion could be to create a "load master section" module like the actual "load workspace".

[woodslanding]

but what happens to that master when you load another wkp? Does it go back to the defaultMaster? Or do you now have your wkp-specific master left in place?

Do you guys not control master functions from within your wkp?? Is there another way to affect all output channels without using the master section? No master mute or volume controls in your wkp?

For me, when I am using usine live, I want a full master section with control from within the wkp, but when I am testing a module with a new empty wkp, I want the simple default master section.

The other problem with the current setup is that it's easy to lose master settings--when you save the wkp, it's not at all obvious you will not be saving the master--the master sections look just like everything else in usine. And you won't realize your master is lost until you upgrade Usine! This is what happened to me. Not a big deal, unless you are on stage when you make the discovery!

Anyway, I think I have figured out how to make my master work with a new empty wkp, which was the first problem. And now I save the master regularly, which solves the other problem.

So no big deal to me...... but I think it is unnecessarily difficult to understand for newbies.

cheers,
-e

[senso]

I need time to think about all of that!!