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control RME UFX from HH?

Unread post by woodslanding » 01 Oct 2021, 21:13

Is there a way for Usine to appear as a midi source to other apps? (in this case totalmix)
I can control levels in TM from my physical midi interfaces, but can't figure out how to control it straight from Usine. Is this possible?

thanks!
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Unread post by grego mondo » 02 Oct 2021, 17:06

Hello

I used to control my RME UFX in osc from HH (years ago) I can search for the patches I used but it seemed (to me) easier to use OSC than midi.
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Unread post by senso » 04 Oct 2021, 08:21

maybe you can install a virtual midi driver?

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Unread post by woodslanding » 07 Oct 2021, 19:15

OSC, huh? Wow, I am really not up to speed on that! If you could post those patches, that would be awesome.

Otherwise I'll look into it...

-- and now I do recall using a virtual driver when I had this working under the old Usine.
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Unread post by grego mondo » 19 Oct 2021, 10:10

Remote expert.wkp
OSC ports in the popup
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Hello

Sorry about delay
I found this patch and cleaned it and updated it
You can affect easily mute group (1/4) and alomost any fader of the input.

Hope it helps
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Unread post by woodslanding » 31 Jan 2023, 21:10

I know it's been a while, but I finally got to this, and it is is great, thanks! I cleaned it up some more. It's now a poly patch that has sliders for multiple channels' inputs. However I can't figure out the addresses for outputs.

The tutorial from the manual pages says to enable osc messages in the trace, but that option doesn't exist in settings any more...

I tried the osc lister, but there seem to be a lot of controls not shown. I'm not seeing any values for outputs. I know totalmix has 3 pages of osc commands, but I'm not seeing anything except page 1 in the lister.

I have control of inputs working, and I have an address for master volume, but I can't find commands for any of the other outputs.

I'm completely new to OSC, so I may be missing something obvious!

Thanks!!
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Unread post by woodslanding » 31 Jan 2023, 22:09

okay, got some help here, https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=25417

Will have a utility patch together soon and will post it.
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Unread post by woodslanding » 01 Feb 2023, 06:09

Here is a means of addressing the volumes of all inputs and outputs of total mix, for anyone who might need it.

It's really amazing to me that a company as sharp as RME has such a ridiculous and kludgey implementation, that actually requires up to three messages to get a specific action done. But there is a reason: it's all piggybacked on Mackie's horrible MIDI implementation, which was then copied by touchOSC, and then by RME. Amazing the traction bad ideas have. I believe there was an XKCD comic on the topic just a couple of days ago, actually.... [/RANT]

Anyway, if you set the top combo to INPUT, then you can pick which output buss you are seeing/controlling send volumes of with the fader directly below, which will update to show the buss name. (If you set the combo to OUTPUT or PLAYBACK, this combo won't do anything, you're just controlling the master levels of the busses.)
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Unread post by woodslanding » 01 Feb 2023, 06:13

Well, RME's midi implementation isn't much better, as it too is based on Mackie Control. You have to send a midi message to put it in a particular mode, and then send a midi value to a slider. Depending on the mode, the same midi data can control a different bus.

I may yet use it in my wkp. I thought it was time I got my head around OSC, but I think this was a bad place to start ;)
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Unread post by grego mondo » 02 Feb 2023, 14:25

Thanks, I'll try that when back home ...
Glad it helped
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