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Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 12:53
by gron
I've been going through the manuals and sample patches but am at a loss.
Am pretty sure I'm missing something obvious.

I'm trying to start with the basics...

For now my (simple?) goal is to create a button that sends a MIDI control change of value 31 to external gear
(a lehle 3@1 in omnichannel mode connected via my Roland MX-1)

I've got my midi input and outputs setup and I'm seeing my external gear in the trace box so I'm confident that is working.

Right now I'm looking at this ...

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Create Midi settings are this:
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I notice that when I select "Control Change" it changes it to a "Note On"... this can't be good

Maybe need to set up my midi output in the rack not just the patch? If this is the case I'm not sure how.

I tried to add a trace to the CreateMidi/out but either no signal gets through when I click the button or I'm just doing it wrong.:/

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 14:09
by 23fx23
the button out should be connected to the create pin the button should be 0-1, then set the message wanna send on the create midi (msgtype is CC, code1 = cc nuber, code2 value to send)

Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 18:02
by joffo78
Yeah. And don't forget to drag your correspondint output midi device on your rack

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 16:04
by gron
Thanks for the tips guys.
I've set up exactly as suggested - Totally missed dragging the midi device to my output so that's pretty serious!

Surprisingly I'm still not seeing or getting any signal through for some reason.

I even replicated the exercises for simple note on generators in the patching tutorial pdf (page 23) and I'm having the same issues.

What's the best way to set up trace on this in a way that can tell me what's getting through or not?

Edit: I worked out I can click on the wires and get trace values... everything seems ok until the output ... I'm unsure how to trace that. I see nothing in the trace window and nothing popping up in MIDI-OX either (thought I better check in case there's a hardware or cable issue)

If it's in the manuals or these forums I'm clearly searching the wrong stuff.

Am at a loss :(

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 17:45
by gron
hmmm ... Still can't send a MIDI message to external gear.

I can get messages from everything in my trace window but can't seem to send out.

To troubleshoot and shift approach I'm now trying to get a signal to MIDI-OX, no luck there either. I set up ports to and from MIDI-OX and set them up to send and receive in Usine. I must be missing something obvious.

I'm on a brand new well equipped Win10 i7 PC solely for making music with almost nothing on it. Ableton, Usine, MIDI-OX and a handful of plugins.

I'm running out of hair to tear out! :/

Can someone please offer me a next step?

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 18:27
by nay-seven
ok, so your midi device out is correctly activated in the setup /midi tab?
you have drag it from the device panel on your rack output ?
audio engine of Usine is ON ?

here a basic workspace sending a note on and a CC, of course you'll have an error about the midi out device i've used but maybe can help
download

Posted: 25 Mar 2017, 13:54
by gron
Thanks everybody. I'm on the right track. Somehow my Noobness prevented me from considering that the audio engine would also drive midi :P

Also there was something up with my output setup - I never did work out what it was but rebuilding from scratch referencing nay-seven's basic workspace fixed it.