32bit vst in 64bit HH2 ?

[ahs]

how can i use 32 bit vsts in 64bit HH2 ?

[Question]

With a 3rd party VST bridge software, I guess.

[ahs]

not natively ?

[Question]

No, as of yet I'm afraid.

[sephult]

I have not had much of this issue with x86 and x64 anymore...
At one point I honestly just gave up using x86 plugins altogether.
Drives me nuts sometimes cause I see tons of free plugins reviewed by people like bedroom producers, or producer spot
and I want them Cool thing is little by little too you can find an x64 compatible, so just barely fills my need for vst overload mania on my end!
Before I had a million vst and only a handful of ones which were interesting.

Seamus was using an interesting tool called jbridge, which I believe is a VST update tool that converts them to x64 compatible...
Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue with at the moment, and I think he has a ticket in for it. There was another forum post about, you could probably ask him more info.
I had never used before, however tried once to verify that he was having an issue. It seemed pretty simple, src/dest folder and wallaha instant conversion...
Just never was able to test myself yet. I am not sure I want to jump...lol..I'd probably end up with way too many vst and only a handful I really like...

Do you have a specific plugin that you are wanting to use?
The one I miss that I somewhat liked was Beatscape that was part of older Sonar versions....however in reality I can make Usine do a much better job.

Best Regards!

-S

[ahs]

i don't want vst's at all but some are very nice.
i love a software wich includes all natively for music making and not use alien vst's.
sometimes i count my money and looking for kyma but i thing HH2 is near to that and costs a jiffy.
if i have only firend wich can show me an easy entry to HH2. the YT vids are only older one's.

btw: is there a possibility to have all parameter inlets on a vst at once not touching every knob on the vst?

[sephult]

Hi ahs,

I did reply to your inlet question

I completely understand regarding your Native versus VST.
Natively Hollyhock does include an Oscillator that can create waveforms.
I am working on a synthesizer built totally within Hollyhock, in some cases though a VST will be more feature added....but at the point I have it my synthesizer is really starting to be quite comparable to an Analog / modular synth.

If you want some x64 plugins, I can provide you a good list of these that I use that are free. uHe has several ones like Tyrell....like I said I can send you a list if you would like

-S

[ahs]

i am making mostly experimental music with drones and mangle field recordings (as long as 20-30 minutes or longer). as i said, kyma is to expensive and no other DAW has the possibilities like HH2 but the GUI :rolleyes:

i need no komplex synth but a good convolution delay a hand full of sine waves and noise.

is there a native convolution delay or something like it ?

yes, you can me send the 64bit list, please

[martignasse]

Seamus was using an interesting tool called jbridge, which I believe is a VST update tool that converts them to x64 compatible...
Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue with at the moment, and I think he has a ticket in for it. There was another forum post about, you could probably ask him more info.

Yes jbridge is the way to go if you need to use x32 vst in HH x64 (the opposite is also possible)
Note that default settings of jbridge have to be changed for the vst gui to show in HH, i'm investigating on this actually.
the LEGACY_INTEGRATED_MODE setting should be set to 0 in the .jbridge file generated by jbridger

[ahs]

i can use 32bit HH2 if there is no other big difference to the 64bit version !

[sephult]

Thanks for the info martignasse,

I had not had much experience, actually quite interested now that seamus had introduced me.
However, I've whittled myself to using x64....I can see myself going overboard with all the free x86 plugins out there


-S

[ahs]

so is the 64bit version of HH2 better of quicker or ... then the 32bit version of HH2.
vst's are not crucial

[drakh]

64 bit version can use more of your system ram, which is helpful if you have want to have lot lot lot of samples in memory

[ahs]

so there are no speed and implementaion changes of both versions ?
i ask because reaper has differences between 32bit and 64bit wich matters to me !

[sephult]

Hi ahs,

Bug Reports and Support Tickets

There is a General Inquiry option in the Bug Reports and Support Tickets section.
This can be accessed in the About - Contact & Support menu in the main sensomusic page.

You might be able to get some more definitive differences if there are any.... directly from the sensomusic team....beyond information from users in the Forum.
Martignasse, might know more about as well.

I have to say that regarding x86 and x64, well that is the architecture as well right. A bigger pipeline in x64 versus x86.
So generally you will always have to say that x64 is more efficient and will be able to serve as a faster implementation. It is just the nature.
Regarding VST you will be able to access more RAM as drakh had said, so yes x64 will be able to handle more VST because more RAM is available.
Your hardware will always be a part of the equation as well when it comes to speed and efficiency in utilizing the bit architecture.

Regarding differences between the two, I believe that all platforms are equivalent in features and functions, its just a matter of the platform architecture.
You can download both versions and experience yourself if you need more definitive hands-on of the two.

-S

[ahs]

sorry for asking here but the sensmusic team told me to do so !?

[sephult]

okay well then cool,

Just wanted to make you aware that there is a report for questions and problems if they do arise.

So as far as differences they should be the same functionally. Like I said, the architecture is obviously different.

You might get some reporting back from others, but generally people will stick with x64 if their OS and hardware is geared toward....or x86 if they are 32 bit.

-S

[Thomas Helzle]

I happily use the 32 Bit versions of all my audio software on a 64 Bit Windows 8.1 system.

On a 64 Bit system, a 32 Bit application can use up to 4 GB RAM (if compiled correctly) and that is plenty for my use.

Performance is pretty much the same between the two.
Native 64 Bit software is a bit faster in theory, but usually this is eaten up by the larger memory requirement so in most cases, the 32 Bit version performs pretty much exactly the same as the 64 Bit versions in real-life-situations - I tried.
If you are concerned, install both versions side by side and try it on your own system with the same workspace to see if there is any difference.

The only major reason for using the 64 Bit version is RAM (as was said before). If you use huge sample libraries or gigantic audio files, that may be a problem, but you can cross that bridge when you reach it.

For a while I used jBridge and the x64 versions of my DAWs, but at one point I realised that it is silly for what I do. More trouble than it's worth. Since then I'm back to all 32 Bit.

Cheers,

Tom

[sephult]

Vinyl is better

[UncleAge]

I needed to respond in some thread to satisfy the "Spam Security" settings so I hope this will suffice.

[sephult]

Yep I was going off-track with Vinyl is better anyway uncleage
Welcome again!

-S

[symplx]

I tried jbridge. It gave me GUI problems and messed with some of my patches. Martignasse, any new information about
LEGACY_INTEGRATED_MODE etc? I decided to use the 32 bit version but got a 'no audio' error in settings. Nay-seven posted else where on forum about this driver and it worked for me: http://www.asio4all.com/