Match tempo precisely with external DAW

[mattputz]

I hope this question makes sense - let me know what details I'm missing.

I need to match Usine's tempo with an external DAW (Ableton), and I'd prefer to do it by simply providing bpm and hitting "start" manually to sync. (Please don't get too distracted by that - it's a necessity in my live environment where I'm playing.) What I've found is that Usine's tempo will creep away from Ableton just enough over the course of a five-minute song to require at least one re-sync, and I'd like this to be way closer. My guess is that this is due to Usine's method of tempo rounding because of the block timebase. True?

If that's the case, I would like to use my computer system's timebase (rather than blocks) to provide tempo to ALL of Usine. If that's not possible, I'd like to at least be able to use my computer system's timebase to provide tempo to a particular patch that contains two pianorolls, so that at least the tempo of the midi going out from those pianorolls won't be subjected to the rounding issues I'm encountering when using Usine's master sync and block timebase.

My assumption has been that the time precise (ms) module provides a clock to Usine that isn't bound by the block timebase, but is that true? If it isn't true, is there another way to get that kind of clock into Usine? And then, if there is a way to do that, how would I patch between that clock and the local sync module to accomplish all this?

AND... if I'm going down the wrong road completely, feel free to show me whatever alternative route makes sense to you.

[oli_lab]

Hi,
I wonder if you could send midi time code with Live and use it in Usine.

There is also à software called Châtaigne that could help.
Live will be connected to chataigne and chataigne will send osc messages to Usine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_contin ... e=emb_logo


Or maybe "ableton link" would be à good suggestion request !?

[mattputz]

Thanks- unfortunately, I will not be able to connect directly to the other DAW. I need to be able to manually sync, which means the tempo just needs to match and not drift. I realize that there are variables that could cause two computers that would otherwise be on identical tempos to get "off" (glitches, resource grabbing, etc.). I'm not trying to solve that problem. I just want identical tempos to start with. I hope that makes sense.

[woodslanding]

+1 for ableton link.

I've been hand-synching with tap tempo all my life, but I am doing a new project where sync would be really useful, and the rest of the band is using link....

[oli_lab]

+1 for ableton link.

I've been hand-synching with tap tempo all my life, but I am doing a new project where sync would be really useful, and the rest of the band is using link....

Chataigne has link, maybe you can use it get link info from Live and to send OSC to Usine