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Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 17 Sep 2019, 10:16

Hello,

I'm using several midi controllers and not always the same regarding of my setup. Sometimes my BCF mixer has got the index 2, sometimes the index 3, therefore I must remap all my racks, patches remotes. Is there a way to avoid that?
Thank you

sm_jamieson · Unread post by **sm_jamieson** » 17 Sep 2019, 16:16

Does the number relate to which USB port it is plugged into ?

23fx23 · Unread post by **23fx23** » 17 Sep 2019, 16:35

iirc there its a windows problem that makes id inconsistent if they are plugged/unpluged to system

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 17 Sep 2019, 18:09

Yes the index relates to the USB port.But, as said 23fx23, windows (7 in my case) does not always assign the same Id, while plugging, replugging (on the same USB Hub port i.e.) .
Maybe it'salso inherent to the BCF because the other controllers do not have id.
So there is no solution inside Usine? Any way to get rid of this index?

Unread post by **oli_lab** » 17 Sep 2019, 19:17

this is why I love OSC and start building my own controlers.
anyway, one way around this would be to use different channels for each USB controller (ie ch1 for BCF1, ch2 for BCF2 etc...)
then to intercept all midi messages in one patch, and make it available via a midi bus
channel midi filter will do the parsing

my two cents

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 17 Sep 2019, 19:35

Thank you for the advice. But in this configuration could I still use Midi learn?

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 18 Sep 2019, 09:41

Hello, I have sometimes the same problem (on win 7)
I believe you just need to rename the device and not to re-learn everything. not perfect but it works quite quickly.

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 18 Sep 2019, 10:03

I correct what I wrote above: other controllers have also ID... So it's not inherent to BCF
@grego mondo > how do you do to rename the device in the setup menu?

rlgsbt · Unread post by **rlgsbt** » 18 Sep 2019, 13:00

Hi Gilles,
in HH3 and HH4, I guess you could rename and edit your devices with a texte editor. Here is the path folder : Usine Hollyhock Win64 3.0.188ConfigDefault Devices
May be have a try with a copy of your folder

good luck

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 18 Sep 2019, 15:06

Thank you rlgsbt! I've tried to change the name in the folder but it does not work. Maybe there are other parameters to modify, that I don't know

Unread post by **oli_lab** » 18 Sep 2019, 15:38

Gilsornette wrote:Thank you for the advice. But in this configuration could I still use Midi learn?

You're right, midilearn won't work this way. you'll have to hardwire everything

one way to do it is to make data busses for every control in the aforementioned patch

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 18 Sep 2019, 18:27

OK I'll think about this. Thank you

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 19 Sep 2019, 16:33

I used to rename the midi device by :
selecting it in devices
click rename inthe option (on the left in the screen capture)

asI remember it worked.

I deleted let's says "in bcf2000 2"
and renamed the "in bcf2000 3" as "in bcf2000 2"

hope it will work for u

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 19 Sep 2019, 17:55

@Grego mondo: thank you for the help. But it doesn't work: you can rename your devices in the device menu but when you use midi learn the "incoming flow midi data" always keeps the former name and ID...

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 20 Sep 2019, 11:59

I'll check again what was the way I did it because I'mpretty sure I found a way when I occured me

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 24 Sep 2019, 09:05

I hope you'll find because I'm fed up with unplugging replugging;-)

grego mondo · Unread post by **grego mondo** » 24 Sep 2019, 14:53

Can't just reproduce the behaviour but looking to the workspace where I had these problem I found back the solution I had :
if you just erease the device name in the midi learn (and don't have 2 controllers using the same channel) then you don't have to worry about the name of the device ...

Gilsornette · Unread post by **Gilsornette** » 24 Sep 2019, 16:06

It's a bit unorthodox, but...it works:-) . Thank you, I'll do so until I fnd another solution.

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