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Overlapping sounds with Sampler

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Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 11 Mar 2007, 05:20

Hi all boiling brains and running fingers!

I want a Sampler to play long tracks and being able to overlap them (so, Poly is not set to 1).
It's in a track and a User Curve selects the Num value.
At each change of that value, a Has Changed module triggers the Play button.
The only thing connected to the Stop button is a LogicalMath checking if Synchronize is ON and stops only if ON goes from 1 to 0 (also with a Has Changed module).
Works fine (even if it's not so easy to draw the curve right in tempo), but...
When file#2 starts, file#1 just stops. No overlapping.
I've tried different combinations... and found no solution.
I'm sure an expert could in two seconds (well, less than one second, OK).
And, maybe reveal it to me?

Or should I do that with an almost empty and very long Piano Roll instead of User Curve?

Thanks!

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Unread post by senso » 11 Mar 2007, 09:57

It's normal,
No overlapping is possible with a single sampler.
when you change the NUM param the current polyphony is set to zero. (the sound stops)
To do the job you need 2 or more samplers (layers)

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 12 Mar 2007, 16:38

In fact, as sampler, I only know GigaStudio and Kontakt...
I'm not an expert in all those machines, but it seems to me that this sampler is most a sort of expander, right?
You cannot build an instrument with it, with one (or velocity layers of) sample(s) per note - or it will be monophonic.
Since Kontakt may be plugged in Usine (and, as I still don't know precisely, Giga VI)(and it's also easy to build one in Reaktor), it's perhaps not useful to have a real sampler module...

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Unread post by senso » 12 Mar 2007, 22:48

You found my real motivation.
"why spend hours to develop a supra-giga-sampler, if it still exist?"
"Could I make a better reverb than Altiverb?"
"why turn Usine into a modular synth, if you can use Reaktor almost like a native Usine Module?"

The sampler module is the best illustration: It does exactly the opposite of what a "normal" sampler can't do... (random, absurd combinasions of pitch and reverse,etc.)

If you need a conventional sampler I think that it is much more efficient to use Kontakt or Giga.
PS: Kontakt works perfectly with Usine (I use it a lot).

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 13 Mar 2007, 03:24

senso wrote:opposite of what a "normal" sampler can't do
You mean "the opposite of what it can do", or "exactly what it cannot do", right?
I fully agree.
I don't like very much Kontakt, I won't use it (by the way, I don't have it) for simple things like just playing wave files... Your Sampler is perfect.

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Unread post by senso » 13 Mar 2007, 20:56

yes right 'can do'
sorry for the typo

The Usine sampler seems to do a good job for live music.

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Unread post by bsork » 14 Mar 2007, 09:20

...and unlike most other software samplers, the Usine samplers actually samples!
Bjørn S

Vincent

Unread post by Vincent » 14 Mar 2007, 16:44

Yes, you're right, Bj?rn!
A sampling sampler. That is really as strange idea!

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